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    In the past I would have said xSTJ, but I think as I put myself in their shoes more and more it becomes less of a problem.
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    I tend to butt heads with SJ's but I can have a good time with them as long as I keep the talking to a minimum.

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    I get along with everyone!
    Okay, no, just joking. I don't really have any problem with a specific type, I don't think; I generally don't really "let people in" enough to actually let them get to me. They do what they want; I don't let them affect my day.
    Although I have problems with stubborn, conformist, stuck up, arrogant people, but any type could be that. Some more than others, of course, but still.

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    well, i can't relate to the esfjs causing major problems because i married one (that's not to say we don't grate on each other's nerves from time to time--or mostly him on mine , but in general, we do work pretty well). estjs can be tough for me sometimes, but maybe because my mother is one and we've worked out our differences (a LOT of talking and compromising), i am not as troubled by them as i might have been otherwise. SPs don't bother me that much either (best friends in high school were isfp and estp--both of which i did have problems with--especially the estp--in the beginning because of extreme differences, but we liked each other enough to work it out and develop a really meaningful friendship. brother is istp and although we did not get along when younger, we ended up growing really close middle school and up). the one type that i tend to feel the need to stay away from like the plague though is istjs! the few i've met in my life have scarred me. i guess the pattern in my life has been ending up with S types that I butted heads with but then worked out, and ended up with very good results... except for istjs--that just will never work.

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    Funny, but the types that I've been knwn to have problems, have been ESxJs. The feeling has been mutual. I'm pretty certain my uncle's wife is an ESFJ, and oh boy..
    Our personalities just don't mix and match. She did even once state that she finds my silence insulting.
    It's bad.
    And I'm not going to say I'm not to blame also.

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    I butt heads with ST's. Especially when they're in the form of bosses.

    PS - at first glance, I thought the title of this thread was "INFJ butt heads".

    Hah!

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    any SFJ that is too confined in their box of traditionality and blind acceptance thereof who pushes it on others and puts them on guilt trips if you don't agree with them. Particularly, my mother (ESFJ) and step-father (ISFJ with a big ego and lots of mental problems).

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    (Um, I can't say a whole type because I just don't know.) I was out with a really obnoxious woman who happened to be ESFJ a little while ago - o.m.g. I didn't know anyone could still push my buttons like that.

    My InFP sister and I 'lock horns' a bit, though we love each other dearly. We have root level differences in opinion in many areas. Though we still have enough similarity in terms of style, taste, upbringing that it would never become too adversarial. (Plus, I must emphasize that we adore each other.)

    Overall people who apply their personal judgement as law all over the place or anyone who just talks at you in an annoying stream-of-consciousness fashion (when their stream is about a 1/2 inch deep) just bug the hell out of me.

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    I'm thankful I'm surrounded by NFs in my everyday life - I'm not sure that Ive ever met any SJs that I know of (Gimme a few years and hop into the workforce and THEN we'll see.... I dont wanna grow up )

    I DO find that a lot of people I befriend I dislike at first sight. Something about them bugs me until I get into a good one-on-one conversation where they dont have mob mentality running.

    (I find that I generally don't like ENTPs and ISTPs at first the most. )

    There was an ENTJ in my class in school for a few years. We were basically rivals, him in a more brash way. Mine in a more snarky way
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    for all the people having problems with esfjs... it seems like a pattern here is that a lot of the annoying ones in your lives have been women. maybe esfj bad traits are stronger in females, but are calmed down in men? my esfj man is mostly relaxed, non-pushy, and non-judgmental.

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