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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Wait a minute..

    Detachment is a state in which a person overcomes his or her attachment to desire for things, people or concepts of the world and thus attains a heightened perspective. Detachment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    That's the opposite of selfish.
    Detachment for me would be suicide.

    Detachment for me would be apathy, and with apathy I would cease to care about life, and a life unworthy of caring is meaningless and a meaningless life is crueler than death.

    *shrugs*
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Wait a minute..

    Detachment is a state in which a person overcomes his or her attachment to desire for things, people or concepts of the world and thus attains a heightened perspective. Detachment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    That's the opposite of selfish.
    That's just being picky, and playing semantics.

    5 dictionary results for: detachment

    de·tach·ment /d??tæt?m?nt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[di-tach-muhnt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
    –noun
    1. the act of detaching.
    2. the condition of being detached.
    3. aloofness, as from worldly affairs or from the concerns of others.
    4. freedom from prejudice or partiality.
    5. the act of sending out a detached force of troops or naval ships.
    6. the body of troops or ships so detached.
    [Origin: 1660–70; < F détachement. See detach, -ment]

    —Synonyms 3. coolness, indifference, unconcern.
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    de·tach·ment (d?-t?ch'm?nt) Pronunciation Key
    n.

    1. The act or process of disconnecting or detaching; separation.
    2. The state of being separate or detached.
    3. Indifference to or remoteness from the concerns of others; aloofness: preserved a chilly detachment in his relations with the family.
    4. Absence of prejudice or bias; disinterest: strove to maintain her professional detachment in the case.
    5.
    1. The dispatch of a military unit, such as troops or ships, from a larger body for a special duty or mission.
    2. The unit so dispatched.
    3. A permanent unit, usually smaller than a platoon, organized for special duties.

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    noun
    1. avoiding emotional involvement [syn: withdrawal]
    2. the act of releasing from an attachment or connection
    3. the state of being isolated or detached; "the insulation of England was preserved by the English Channel" [syn: insulation]
    4. a small unit of troops of special composition
    5. coming apart [syn: separation]

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    detachment de·tach·ment (d?-t?ch'm?nt)
    n.

    1. The act or process of disconnecting or detaching; separation.
    2. The state of being separate or detached.
    3. Indifference to or remoteness from the concerns of others; aloofness.
    4. Absence of prejudice or bias; disinterest.



    1. The act of detaching or separating, or the state of being detached.

    2. That which is detached; especially, a body of troops or part of a fleet sent from the main body on special service.

    Troops . . . widely scattered in little detachments. --Bancroft.

    3. Abstraction from worldly objects; renunciation.

    A trial which would have demanded of him a most heroic faith and the detachment of a saint. --J. H. Newman.

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    Take your pick of definitions. I think you'll find the word can be used to apply to selfish behaviour, or unselfish behaviour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireyPheonix View Post
    That's just being picky, and playing semantics.

    5 dictionary results for: detachment

    de·tach·ment /d??tæt?m?nt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[di-tach-muhnt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
    –noun
    1. the act of detaching.
    2. the condition of being detached.
    3. aloofness, as from worldly affairs or from the concerns of others.
    4. freedom from prejudice or partiality.
    5. the act of sending out a detached force of troops or naval ships.
    6. the body of troops or ships so detached.
    [Origin: 1660–70; < F détachement. See detach, -ment]

    —Synonyms 3. coolness, indifference, unconcern.
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    Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.

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    de·tach·ment (d?-t?ch'm?nt) Pronunciation Key
    n.

    1. The act or process of disconnecting or detaching; separation.
    2. The state of being separate or detached.
    3. Indifference to or remoteness from the concerns of others; aloofness: preserved a chilly detachment in his relations with the family.
    4. Absence of prejudice or bias; disinterest: strove to maintain her professional detachment in the case.
    5.
    1. The dispatch of a military unit, such as troops or ships, from a larger body for a special duty or mission.
    2. The unit so dispatched.
    3. A permanent unit, usually smaller than a platoon, organized for special duties.

    The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
    Copyright © 2006 by Houghton Mifflin Company.


    noun
    1. avoiding emotional involvement [syn: withdrawal]
    2. the act of releasing from an attachment or connection
    3. the state of being isolated or detached; "the insulation of England was preserved by the English Channel" [syn: insulation]
    4. a small unit of troops of special composition
    5. coming apart [syn: separation]

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    detachment de·tach·ment (d?-t?ch'm?nt)
    n.

    1. The act or process of disconnecting or detaching; separation.
    2. The state of being separate or detached.
    3. Indifference to or remoteness from the concerns of others; aloofness.
    4. Absence of prejudice or bias; disinterest.



    1. The act of detaching or separating, or the state of being detached.

    2. That which is detached; especially, a body of troops or part of a fleet sent from the main body on special service.

    Troops . . . widely scattered in little detachments. --Bancroft.

    3. Abstraction from worldly objects; renunciation.

    A trial which would have demanded of him a most heroic faith and the detachment of a saint. --J. H. Newman.

    Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.

    Copyright © 2008, Dictionary.com, LLC. All rights reserved.

    Take your pick of definitions.
    How does any of that speak to the issue of whether or not detachment is selfish?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    Detachment for me would be suicide.

    Detachment for me would be apathy, and with apathy I would cease to care about life, and a life unworthy of caring is meaningless and a meaningless life is crueler than death.

    *shrugs*
    This is natural for an ENFP, and don't let anyone ever tell you there's anything wrong with it. This specifically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    Detachment for me would be suicide.

    Detachment for me would be apathy, and with apathy I would cease to care about life, and a life unworthy of caring is meaningless and a meaningless life is crueler than death.

    *shrugs*
    It was a little while ago when I realized that if people took everything away from me, I wouldn't care.

    I could put up a fight. But what's the difference. You have your values validated and your treasures. Or you don't.
    You're happy. Or you're not. Feelings are fleeting. You can be in a state in your life- you could have a career that disagrees with your core. But then again you could be detatched.

    I'm an 8 with a strong 9 wing.

    Am I dead?

    I was struggling with this a while ago...it saddened me. Your post made me remember it again. I don't know why I shoved this thought aside, I don't remember resolving it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    holy shit am I a feeler?
    if you like my avatar, it's because i took it myself! : D

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    I was merely pointing out the word, detachment can infer, both states.
    The below meaning could infer selfishness
    3. Indifference to or remoteness from the concerns of others; aloofness: preserved a chilly detachment in his relations with the family.
    This meaning could infer selflessness,
    4. freedom from prejudice or partiality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    This is natural for an ENFP, and don't let anyone ever tell you there's anything wrong with it. This specifically.
    I won't, and thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    It was a little while ago when I realized that if people took everything away from me, I wouldn't care.

    I could put up a fight. But what's the difference. You have your values validated and your treasures. Or you don't.
    You're happy. Or you're not. Feelings are fleeting. You can be in a state in your life- you could have a career that disagrees with your core. But then again you could be detatched.

    I'm an 8 with a strong 9 wing.

    Am I dead?

    I was struggling with this a while ago...it saddened me. Your post made me remember it again. I don't know why I shoved this thought aside, I don't remember resolving it.
    Hmm, emotions are fleeting, and most things in life are transient, including life itself, but, there is history and I hate this word, so please strip it of its egotistical connotation, but there is also legacy. What you do today with your life, will have consequences that will directly affect the future.

    May I ask you, what do you love?

    What inspires you, makes you feel alive, and well, happy?

    When push comes to shove, what do *you* think really matters about life, whether it be about your life specifically, or life in general?

    What do you care about?
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    'Cause you can't handle me...

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    I just reacted to what I felt was an attack on a personal characteristic.
    Currently submerged under an avalanche of books and paper work. I may come back up for air from time to time.
    Real life awaits and she is a demanding mistress.

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    Oh, and gah,

    Lol, YOU ARE NOT DEAD!!!

    You are very much alive!!! (Though you may, ironically, *feel* dead, feeling dead sucks, I know from personal experience.)

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    'Cause you can't handle me...

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    "That that is, is. That that is not, is not. Is that it? It is."

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