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    And dudes, this thread isn't about *me* it is about *Fi*.

    Grrrrr!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    Fi is merely a *way* to apprehend universal truth, or "truth"

    That is all.
    Thinkers dispute what's true, while Feelers sense/see/understand the truth.

    see this is the benefit of using very vague statements. You did not state or imply that it was just a way. You sort of discounted the fact that thinkers could ever "see" universal truths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimahn View Post
    Thinkers dispute what's true, while Feelers sense/see/understand the truth.

    see this is the benefit of using very vague statements. You did not state or imply that it was just a way. You sort of discounted the fact that thinkers could ever "see" universal truths.
    I think that was more the result of your faulty interpretation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimahn View Post
    Thinkers dispute what's true, while Feelers sense/see/understand the truth.

    see this is the benefit of using very vague statements. You did not state or imply that it was just a way. You sort of discounted the fact that thinkers could ever "see" universal truths.
    Well, I apologize for my vague wording that resulted in your misunderstanding.

    I hope this is all cleared up now, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    I think that was more the result of your faulty interpretation.
    well my interpretation was that thinkers try and argue whether or not something is true. while feelers see/understand/sense the truth.

    How should that be interpreted
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimahn View Post
    well my interpretation was that thinkers try and argue whether or not something is true. while feelers see/understand/sense the truth.

    How should that be interpreted
    She should have said, thinkers attempt to understand the truth by disputing it with others, yet feelers through mere perception 'see/understand/sense'.

    This is the most accurate interpretation I can think of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimahn View Post
    well my interpretation was that thinkers try and argue whether or not something is true. while feelers see/understand/sense the truth.

    How should that be interpreted
    No, I meant that your interpretation of CC's statements as meaning "thinkers don't have access to the 'truth' and feelers do" was not immediately evident to anyone else but yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    No, I meant that your interpretation of CC's statements as meaning "thinkers don't have access to the 'truth' and feelers do" was not immediately evident to anyone else but yourself.
    by immediately do you mean it is evident now and faulty, or do you mean it was faulty and is not evident?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimahn View Post
    by immediately do you mean it is evident now and faulty, or do you mean it was faulty and is not evident?
    She meant that upon first reading it was not clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWing View Post
    She should have said, thinkers attempt to understand the truth by disputing it with others, yet feelers through mere perception 'see/understand/sense'.

    This is the most accurate interpretation I can think of.
    Yes and that is my main argument with her reasoning. It gives her a great amount of flexibility because she is rarely precise with her words like you. It's kind of hard to argue when you have so many possible interpretations of your words and statements. This isn't even touching on the fact that she decides to argue her many statements well after the fact.
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