05-13-2015, 11:23 PM #5111
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05-14-2015, 05:11 AM #5112MBTI:
Sins: Pride > Sloth > Gluttony > Wrath > Greed > Lust > Envy
"Only two things are infinite. The universe, and human stupidity, but I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein
"You know you're in love when you can't fall asleep because reality is finally better than your dreams." -Dr. Seuss
"If you want to know what a man is like, take a good look at how he treats his inferiors, not his equals." -J. K. Rowling
05-14-2015, 02:19 PM #5113
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- 5w4 sx/sp
I don't think so, but I won't waste any more time thinking about that.
05-14-2015, 08:39 PM #5114
(Skip me since I am replying to a comment).
I've said to you several times in the past that I am not an ESTJ, as well as many others. It's actually kind of amusing in a way. You see ESTJ's as just bad all around, and swing it around as if it's some sort of insult. It's childish and quite blasé considering historically the kinds of people who wield false typism like that. Fun fact: I actually respect ESTJ's as a type significantly, and see them as having many many qualities I would like to have myself. For others to see me as one is strangely satisfying in a way because it means I am doing somethhing right.
05-14-2015, 09:03 PM #5115
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It's because your use of Fe doesn't match up with the role of any Extroverted Rational at all. Your role as the social "paladin," adhering to a rigid agenda for the sake of the greater good, isn't the role of Je. Je is about personally adhering to external parameters of judgment for the endgame goal of preserving the individiual's internal position as defined by Pi. For Dynamics, "Judgment" and "ideals" as defined by reality are an external means to internal ends, the end of preserving oneself. To contrast, a Static's sense of "well-being," or his Perception, are oriented in external reality and subject to change, while his Judgments, or "ideals," can hardly be swayed by the outside world.
ESTjs don't care about furthering the logical progress of the world or adhering to strict logical standards. That's ISTjs, sticking to the values of Ti. ENFj isn't about consciously doing whatever you can to preserve social harmony -- it happens by instinct. Je isn't about consciously directing all your actions to better suit the requirements of external consensus. Je does that automatically, only to benefit the self. You seem to do it consciously, as if it's some internalized ideal of yours to protect group harmony as long as possible.
You seem to actively pursue values in the context of Fe, as if it's a weaker but valued function you ultimately want to develop. The way you approach "order" and "structure" in the context of group dynamic matches up with Ti more than anything:
Originally Posted by the16types
Based on both your actions on this forum and your descriptions of yourself in reality, you seem much more like the latter of these two than the former:
Originally Posted by the16typesOriginally Posted by the16types
It sounds like your attitude of "order" is actually the voice of Ti, trying to pursue the ideal of Fe. You'd be LSI.
05-14-2015, 09:14 PM #5116
The one thing I am absolutely certain of in the context of Socionics is that I am extremely Beta.
05-17-2015, 01:21 AM #5117
E/I is hard to tell online, but NFJ seems reasonable.I've been called a criminal, a terrorist, and a threat to the known universe. But everything you were told is a lie. The truth is, they've taken our freedom, our home, and our future. The time has come for all humanity to take a stand...
05-17-2015, 03:39 PM #5118
Probably, can't see why not4w3-7w6-9w1 so/sx
05-17-2015, 04:32 PM #5119
maybe it's because I don't talk to you too often, but whenever I come across you, I think ESFP.
But I am sure your listed type is fine.You are so arbitrary.
05-17-2015, 05:23 PM #5120
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Inis Mona too.
For you I get an ENTP but since I never talk to you it's only based on your avatar."i shut the door and in the morning
it was open
Olemn slammed his hammer and from the sparks on the metal of his anvil came the spheres of the heavens.
Sayrah blew life into the spheres and they moved. From her wheel she weaved the names of people in to mystery.
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