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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadir View Post
    Victor, as you have seen here, The Attention Economy is not prepared to make dealings with you. The reason for this is that The Attention Economy here only deals in Non-Cryptic MBTIc Dollars (taken at face value), while you deal in Victor's Words -- an unknown quantity, the worth of which no one, or few, in this Economy can determine. I am sorry to have said this, but it is the unfortunate case. Perhaps if you were to find a way to convert between the two currencies, things would look up.
    lol. That was beautiful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    What?

    Whenever I don't know what to do, I always ask myself, "What would Paris do?".

    V.
    So you're going to shoot a amateur porn movie of yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadir View Post
    Victor, as you have seen here, The Attention Economy is not prepared to make dealings with you. The reason for this is that The Attention Economy here only deals in Non-Cryptic MBTIc Dollars (taken at face value), while you deal in Victor's Words -- an unknown quantity, the worth of which no one, or few, in this Economy can determine. I am sorry to have said this, but it is the unfortunate case. Perhaps if you were to find a way to convert between the two currencies, things would look up.
    Thanks for your advice Nadir.

    I could write in the language of the day - I could write in the taken-for-granted.

    But it is a matter of taste - I taste the words as they come out of my mouth.

    And I have developed a taste for freshly minted words - I mint my own coin.

    I find second hand words stick on my tongue.

    And the freshly minted carry me from the quotidian to ecstasy.

    I couldn't bear to go back - even for you.

    The taste of ecstasy is on my tongue.

    Victor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    And I have developed a taste for freshly minted words - I mint my own coin.
    I have no complaint with the words you mint. I just wish you'd mint fewer goddamned carriage returns.

    The taste of ecstasy is on my tongue.
    That explains a lot about the drug-fueled quality of your writing...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadir View Post
    Victor, as you have seen here, The Attention Economy is not prepared to make dealings with you. The reason for this is that The Attention Economy here only deals in Non-Cryptic MBTIc Dollars (taken at face value), while you deal in Victor's Words -- an unknown quantity, the worth of which no one, or few, in this Economy can determine. I am sorry to have said this, but it is the unfortunate case. Perhaps if you were to find a way to convert between the two currencies, things would look up.
    I don't know how to convert between the two currencies.

    I put all my energy into minting my own words.

    Pehaps I am wrong but if I started using your currency, I feel I would be using second-hand words.

    I would like to think it is a matter of taste - that I taste the words as they leave my mouth.

    And I rather like the taste the freshly minted.

    But I suspect it is not a matter of taste but a matter of belonging - and I don't belong.

    And it does seem to me that bad taste is too high a price to belong.

    I do feel sad and somewhat baffled - I don't know what to do.

    V.

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    Default The Horseless Carriage and Carriage Returns

    Quote Originally Posted by Rajah View Post
    I just wish you'd mint fewer goddamned carriage returns.
    If you have ever received an old fashioned Telegraph, you will see that I write in the same style.

    I write in a Telegraphic style because the text you are reading in front of you, is not printed - it is not printed on a Printing Press. Rather the words you are reading now are electronic words. They are conveyed to you largely over electric wires just as the Telegraph was conveyed.

    And just as the Printing Press created certain habits of thought, so the electronic world of the telegraph, telephone, television and the internet are creating new habits of thought and style.

    And as you are a highly literate person you are comfortable with the habits of thought and styles engendered by the Printing Press. And you are uncomfortable with the habits and style engendered by the Electronic Media.

    The medium is the message and the message of the Telegraph comes with fewer carriage returns.

    But just think what I have just said - I said, "carriage returns". A typewriter has carriage returns, my electric computer does not have carriage returns.

    And remember, before the motor car we had the horse and carriage. So it seemed natural to call the motor car, "the horseless carriage".

    So just as we first spoke of the motor car as the horseless carriage, we now speak of the computer as though it were a typewriter.

    That is, we drive forward, so to speak, looking in the rear vision mirror. So instead of seeing the motor car and the computer through the windscreen, we see the horseless carriage and the typewriter through the rear vision mirror.

    And looking in the rear vision mirror it seems natural to wish I would make fewer carriage returns when, in reality through the windscreen, I am making no carriage returns at all.

    V.

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    Default Entrancing

    Quote Originally Posted by Rajah View Post
    That explains a lot about the drug-fueled quality of your writing...
    And you have spoken truer than you think.

    Any media induces a trance.

    The motor car which moves us from one place to another without us moving, induces a trance - the driving trance.

    Mozart who moves us emotionally, induces a trance - the musical trance.

    And our clothing which acts as a second skin and moves with us, induces a trance - the trance of fashion.

    And of course cigarettes, alcohol and meth induce a trance - the drug trance.

    And talking to you over the internet puts me in a trance - the trance electric.

    So much, so much, is entrancing.

    Victor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    If you have ever received an old fashioned Telegraph, you will see that I write in the same style.
    I haven't. Because I'm only a shade over thirty. And the Western Union telegram was discontinued in early 2006, due to an extraordinary decline in interest due in large part to displacement by e-mail. In other words, insisting on using the telegram was an increasingly dumb idea.

    I hate to break it to you, but the old-fashioned printing press is rather out of vogue, supplanted by desktop publishing. Does this blurring of the lines between hard-copy and electronic media disturb you?

    Another thing you may wish to consider is succinctness. As you no doubt know, given your history lesson on the telegraph, conveying messages was very expensive and time-consuming. Payment was usually per word. If you insist on replicating the telegram experience, you might want to condense your posts from 27 lines to a handful of words. I'm sure you'd like to keep the experience as authentic as possible.

    And as you are a highly literate person you are comfortable with the habits of thought and styles engendered by the Printing Press. And you are uncomfortable with the habits and style engendered by the Electronic Media.
    You still love jumping to conclusions, I see.

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    Vic, me old mate, I'll just had a freshly minted thought. Why don't you have a "dicky bird" (a word) with Paris.

    Get her onto the forum here, contributing her pearls of wisdom to the grateful congregation.

    I for one am willing to guide her morally and physically in The Ways of Rightiousness. Will you hold her other hand? It's a jungle out there.

    PS I reckon she's an INTJ playing it for laughs.

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    Default Our Paris Projection

    Quote Originally Posted by bananatrombones View Post
    Vic, me old mate, I'll just had a freshly minted thought. Why don't you have a "dicky bird" (a word) with Paris.

    Get her onto the forum here, contributing her pearls of wisdom to the grateful congregation.

    I for one am willing to guide her morally and physically in The Ways of Rightiousness. Will you hold her other hand? It's a jungle out there.

    PS I reckon she's an INTJ playing it for laughs.
    Consider,

    Paris is a screen on which we project ourselves.

    So if we want to know ourselves, we only need to look at Paris.

    And the striking thing is that all our projections are perjorative - all our projections are negative - highly negative.

    And not only that but we all make the same projections.

    So we are making a mass, negative projection on Paris.

    This means that not only don't we like ourselves but we don't like each other.

    What attracts us, unconsciously, is our mutual distaste.

    But we are too weak individually to break free.

    We need to belong - we need to belong - we need to belong to anything - no matter how distasteful.

    V.

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