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    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

    Who actually believes in this crap?!?!?!?!?

    I refuse to believe that human beings can be this stupid, no, No, NO!!!!
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    Perhaps you can tell me why you think people end up believing in these things that you refuse to accept they believe.
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    Perhaps you can tell me why you think people end up believing in these things
    Lack of Natural Selection? Wait, they refuse to believe in that, hmm..

    Most of the YECs (Young Earth Creationists) are brought up that way, they are never taught to question what they are being told. Its very depressing, I consider it child abuse when you hear all these stories of kids getting shipped off to Jesus Camp, the camp counsellors use the classic Appeal to Fear on these kids (you're gonna go to hell if you don't accept Jesus into your heart!). Literally, in their brains, certain wirings are being cut off and they are being frozen into believing utter nonsense.

    Here is how they do it at these camps, they use the 3 steps of change method:

    1. Unfreeze (appear friendly and caring to the kids, gain their absolute trust)
    2. Implement Desired Change (Instill the YEC mindset in the kids)
    3. Re-Freeze (Teach them to not question what they are being told, essentially blocking off free-thought)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didums View Post
    Lack of Natural Selection? Wait, they refuse to believe in that, hmm..
    LOL!!!



    Most of the YECs (Young Earth Creationists) are brought up that way, they are never taught to question what they are being told. Its very depressing, I consider it child abuse when you hear all these stories of kids getting shipped off to Jesus Camp, the camp counsellors use the classic Appeal to Fear on these kids (you're gonna go to hell if you don't accept Jesus into your heart!). Literally, in their brains, certain wirings are being cut off and they are being frozen into believing utter nonsense.
    I couldn't agree with you more, ugh!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didums View Post
    Lack of Natural Selection? Wait, they refuse to believe in that, hmm..

    Most of the YECs (Young Earth Creationists) are brought up that way, they are never taught to question what they are being told. Its very depressing, I consider it child abuse when you hear all these stories of kids getting shipped off to Jesus Camp, the camp counsellors use the classic Appeal to Fear on these kids (you're gonna go to hell if you don't accept Jesus into your heart!). Literally, in their brains, certain wirings are being cut off and they are being frozen into believing utter nonsense.

    Here is how they do it at these camps, they use the 3 steps of change method:

    1. Unfreeze (appear friendly and caring to the kids, gain their absolute trust)
    2. Implement Desired Change (Instill the YEC mindset in the kids)
    3. Re-Freeze (Teach them to not question what they are being told, essentially blocking off free-thought)
    When children are not sent to camps like that, but still believe similar things, how do you think it happens? Do you believe that a parent simply does the same process?

    Also, perhaps if we could have a more psychological explanation. What's actually going on inside of these peoples' heads? How can they actually rationalize these thoughts, and what is the fundamental psychological motivation to convince oneself of such things?
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    Maybe not everyone is able to, or willing to engage in critical thinking.

    Growing up, my father was an atheist and my mother was/is a devout Christian.

    I went to church/Sunday school until I was in 2nd grade and refused to go anymore, it became less fun and more Jesus, blah, blah blah-oriented, no thanks. I went to a Hebrew elementary school from Kindergarten to grade 6, where bible studies and going to temple where mandatory, I actually really enjoyed bible studies, because open discourse was encouraged and engaged in. It was fun to debate/analyze whether or not someone acted ethically or morally wrong or right.

    Interestingly enough, I never really recall God being that much of an issue, maybe he/it was, but because of my inherent disbelief I just ignored it/his emphasis.

    I truly don't ever recall really believing in a God, and I wonder if some of us are just less predisposed to automatically believe what we are told/taught as being necessarily true.

    I also was raised with/by an idiot (albeit an incredibly kind one) for a mother, so it wasn't like I had this authority figure who I respected and regarded as being this beacon of truth.

    From a young age I have been, what I assume, is genetically predisposed to be an autodidact of sorts, I wonder if that correlates with my being an atheist.

    Also, I wonder if my father's atheism had any influence over mine?

    I would surely hope not since I deeply regarded him to be a complete asshole, although, to his credit, he was quite intelligent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    Maybe not everyone is able to, or willing to engage in critical thinking.

    Growing up, my father was an atheist and my mother was/is a devout Christian.

    I went to church/Sunday school until I was in 2nd grade and refused to go anymore, it became less fun and more Jesus, blah, blah blah-oriented, no thanks. I went to a Hebrew elementary school from Kindergarten to grade 6, where bible studies and going to temple where mandatory, I actually really enjoyed bible studies, because open discourse was encouraged and engaged in. It was fun to debate/analyze whether or not someone acted ethically or morally wrong or right.

    Interestingly enough, I never really recall God being that much of an issue, maybe he/it was, but because of my inherent disbelief I just ignored it/his emphasis.

    I truly don't ever recall really believing in a God, and I wonder if some of us are just less predisposed to automatically believe what we are told/taught as being necessarily true.

    I also was raised with/by an idiot (albeit an incredibly kind one) for a mother, so it wasn't like I had this authority figure who I respected and regarded as being this beacon of truth.

    From a young age I have been, what I assume, is genetically predisposed to be an autodidact of sorts, I wonder if that correlates with my being an atheist.
    Normally I would agree with this, but in your case there may have been an Unholy influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    Normally I would agree with this, but in your case there may have been an Unholy influence.
    Lol, what, my father's???

    Also, like, um, shit, can we just keep it real here, for a second, and conjecture that atheism and intelligence are positively correlated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    Also, like, um, shit, can we just keep it real here, for a second
    No. Welcome to the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    No. Welcome to the internet.
    Lol @ your sig-vid!!!

    WTF?!?!?

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