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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Fe is an interpersonally-oriented and subjective function, so it's most likely to communicate on personal terms in general, so it's most likely to attack in personal rather than objective terms.
    Fe and Fi are both subjective.

    An ad hominem is belittling, insulting or showing irrelevant character flaws in your opponent in order to invalid their argument. It's making it personal and can often involve passing judgment on the other person. That hardly fits the definition of Fe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinity View Post
    Fe and Fi are both subjective.

    An ad hominem is belittling, insulting or showing irrelevant character flaws in your opponent in order to invalid their argument. It's making it personal and can often involve passing judgment on the other person. That hardly fits the definition of Fe.
    Well, it sort of does when you consider that the kind of situation when you would use an ad hom is a confrontational one -- Fe users would use ad hom when in the defensive, generally when reacting against what they find hurtful to others. I've been on the receiving end of those barrages very often in political boards, due to my seemingly callous hyper-pragmatism. As Fe focuses on the personal, and in an external manner they'd be much more likely to launch a rhetorical attack based on the opponent's perceived flaws. Fi would be more likely to use sarcasm and snark, perhaps combined with restating their argument with greater emphasis and some more generalized insults (imbecile, etc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinity View Post
    Fe and Fi are both subjective.

    An ad hominem is belittling, insulting or showing irrelevant character flaws in your opponent in order to invalid their argument. It's making it personal and can often involve passing judgment on the other person. That hardly fits the definition of Fe.
    Ahh, sure it is... when you're trying to get the crowd on your side

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    it's easier to play a crowd if you ask the right questions and get THEM to attack YOU... who doesn't know that?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    it's easier to play a crowd if you ask the right questions and get THEM to attack YOU... who doesn't know that?!
    Ad hominem by proxy... it's the best way of all

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    my grandfather always said "don't be the first one to throw a punch, let them throw it first so that they get the blame"... he's a wise man sometimes

    and it's not ad hominem if the person is going to do it anyways and you just offend their "logic" a little to push them into a state of anger!
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