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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan Le Fay View Post
    Why don't you describe your relationship with your parents? And their's with each other.

    Assuming you know who they are, that is. And only the PG rated stuff, if you please.
    Certainly. Though, I know you probably don't intend to share yourself.

    |...| Now that you get the idea, I can hide again.

    What about you?
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    I am just here to waste time and for self-expression folks.
    Suit yourself.
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    Certainly. Though, I know you probably don't intend to share yourself.
    And I was foolish enough to doubt your perceptiveness.

    So it was from your father that you learnt to associate brutality with love. Interesting.
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    Gosh, the world looks so small from up here on my high horse of menstruation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan Le Fay View Post
    And I was foolish enough to doubt your perceptiveness.

    So it was from your father that you learnt to associate brutality with love. Interesting.
    From him I learned that someone can love you and still hurt you. And, that you can love someone who hurts you.

    But, love is brutal, isn't it? Perhaps it has never been so to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    From him I learned that someone can love you and still hurt you. And, that you can love someone who hurts you.

    But, love is brutal, isn't it? Perhaps it has never been so to you.

    I grew up with a sadistic person. No matter what that person is feeling, it isn't loving to be brutal. I knew at three and I know it now.

    I didn't accept what they wanted to "teach" me about love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    I grew up with a sadistic person. No matter what that person is feeling, it isn't loving to be brutal. I knew at three and I know it now.

    I didn't accept what they wanted to "teach" me about love.
    It isn't loving to beat someone when you're drunk. I agree. But, the inflicting of pain can and does coexist with love. That is just the sad fact of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    From him I learned that someone can love you and still hurt you. And, that you can love someone who hurts you.

    But, love is brutal, isn't it? Perhaps it has never been so to you.
    I am sorry that you had to suffer that.

    I am fortunate to be unfamiliar with brutality at close range.
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    Gosh, the world looks so small from up here on my high horse of menstruation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan Le Fay View Post
    I am sorry that you had to suffer that.

    I am fortunate to be unfamiliar with brutality at close range.
    Thank you for saying so.

    I truly am not sorry. I left all that behind me as I got older and now see my parents as simply flawed humans. Like me. They married right out of high school and I well remember my father at the age I am now. So, now I just sympathize and take responsibility for myself.

    To feel bad about my past or ashamed would be to feel ashamed about what has made me, me. While I want to improve and grow, I like myself for the most part.

    So, if you did not experience brutality, what makes you so angry? Were you fat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    It isn't loving to beat someone when you're drunk. I agree. But, the inflicting of pain can and does coexist with love. That is just the sad fact of it.
    I disagree. The brutal moments are not loving moments, not connected to being loving. They may feel some love in their hearts at other moments but that has no connection to the disassociated self that acts brutally towards others at other moments. Those brutal moments are acts of hate.

    "Forgive me because I really love you."

    No, if they truly loved others, they'd do something to stop hurting them. They love their addictions more. Either to booze or rage or whatever. Sad to accept but true.

    I get so sick of hearing excuses for sadists.

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    What makes you think I'm angry?
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    Gosh, the world looks so small from up here on my high horse of menstruation.

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