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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    No, and your function hierarchy is not Fe, Fi, Si, Se. You are Si dominant to the bone.
    Nope, sorry. The OP said I was intuitive. I think I'm intuitive.


    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    I'm almost certain of this. And not just slightly, I mean a big chunk of iNtuiters here are actually Sensors.
    Yes, like simulatedworld.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qre:us View Post
    SUPER got banned down below?!!!
    Didn't see that one coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    And that's why I'm increasingly moving toward writing threads/posts geared toward certain ideas or questions and just linking every johnny-come-lately to them.
    I've considered doing this too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    Nope, sorry. The OP said I was intuitive. I think I'm intuitive.
    really?

    Yes, like simulatedworld.
    really?


    Quote Originally Posted by tcda View Post
    I don't agree that we only posses 4 functions, and I'd guess the majority of people now believe that we all posses 8 functions.
    I think you're missing the point. Even the guys that propose all eight functions (which, YES, everyone has) still usually break them down into two four-group categories, and it doesn't change the fact that according to strict theory, Sim is correct... if you flip the J/P thing, it flips all your introverted functions to extroverted and vice versa. So yes, he's right... according to strict theory... although we do see that function order can vary from strict theory because of unique differences in nature and nurture, presumably.

    Less fashionably, I reject the "cognitive functions based typing" in favour of "behaviour based" way of typing.
    Aside from all the cute buzz phrases, can you elucidate us a bit further on what this actually means, in practicable terms?

    ... maybe start your own thread on it, since it probably won't fit well into this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcda View Post
    I don't agree that we only posses 4 functions, and I'd guess the majority of people now believe that we all posses 8 functions.

    Less fashionably, I reject the "cognitive functions based typing" in favour of "behaviour based" way of typing.

    Incredaboy made a fairly good case on the 4 function-only thing. So fairly good I converted. And now I'll bathe in your blood you heretic. Right after I add you as a friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little_Sticks View Post
    This stuff makes my head spin. Everyone has a different interpretation of the functions in regards to the nuances that describe them outside of an abstract form and when I try to put that together to create a more concrete system, I always get contradictions. It makes me want to go crazy because I can't stop trying to piece together people into explanations, even though I 'just know' that there is no valid logical reason to assume these archetypes exist in an all-encompassing form, but rather only exist in the loose-contradictory associations individuals create for them. But even those are useful as a predictive measure. And this predictive measure is why it tends to be important to constantly consider new variations on each new person for a given type.

    Oh I'm rambling. I'll stop now. I'm not sure what I'm accomplishing here.
    Ehh, I don't think it's out of the question that one could develop a cognitive system that can encompass all people. What doesn't help is how nobody around here wants to form a consensus or standardize anything. They press for their own versions of the true, concrete processes (when there probably isn't such a thing) and quibble over the differences so much as to make the entire system useless through absence of denotation.

    The only way this could work is if we are all on the same page. It's like law. One of the key things you need is canon. There are books out there about the MBTI (and yes, they do differ on their opinions) but it would actually be progress if people started even citing those different books against each other. Right now, everyone treats the MBTI as a self-originated oral tradition of sorts.

    If we were all warring between camps of MBTI authors, that would actually make me happy. It would be a step in the right direction.
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    I think you're missing the point. Even the guys that propose all eight functions (which, YES, everyone has) still usually break them down into two four-group categories, and it doesn't change the fact that according to strict theory, Sim is correct... if you flip the J/P thing, it flips all your introverted functions to extroverted and vice versa.
    This isn't what I was lead to belive, for example doesn't Lenore Thomson argue that an INTP's tertiary fourth functions are Fi and Se, just like an INTJ, whereas according to most theories, those would be Si and Fe...so if not even leading psychologists can make there minds up, why am I expected to be sure?

    Likewise I never claimed to be an expert on MBTI, the distinctions drawn between Te/Ti and Ne/Ni still don't satisfy me. I simply made a comment to SUPER about his stereotypes of sensors, which is fairly basic, and suddenly simulated world is banging on about my "intx" type, which is an entirely seperate issue.

    However if an explanation is wanted, I'm happy to oblige, as these forums are about mutual psychological analysis after all.

    So to be honest, I simply chose INTX because I found it preferable to the kind of excessively introspective "what functions am I using threads", which provoke two effects in me:

    1.)I don't find the answers given to be convincing - fascinating and enjoyable to speculate on, yes, but not convincing. For example the last discussion I had, told me that the difference is acutally "philosophical" and not based on any verifiable "mechanics of the brain".

    Now considering I am an historical materialist and reject the idea of philosophy as about an "ideal" which is "seperate from science", I decided, to not waste more time on the issue for now.

    2.)I realize I find such excessive introspection is undesirable and unattractive and that I am happy knowing that I'm an introverted NT and don't really care if I'm using Ne/Ni or Te/Ti.

    Yes, it is, formally, an unsatisfactory compromise, but I have more important things to worry about.

    Aside from all the cute buzz phrases, can you elucidate us a bit further on what this actually means, in practicable terms?
    That I judge myself as INTX because my behaviour is sometimes J and sometimes P. And not based on "introspective research" about "functions order". All power to those who do the latter, I just don't buy it.

    ... maybe start your own thread on it, since it probably won't fit well into this one
    I don't consider my observations interesting or original enough to merit a thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    really?
    No, not really. I know my preference is for Sensing. I just thought I'd be a clear contradiction to the OP. If anyone thinks I'm an intuitive I'd like them to say so. I think it'd be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    No, not really. I know my preference is for Sensing. I just thought I'd be a clear contradiction to the OP. If anyone thinks I'm an intuitive I'd like them to say so. I think it'd be interesting.
    Oh.

    Don't confuse me like that... I know I seem to be getting stupider year by year, but I don't need anything to accelerate the process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Even the guys that propose all eight functions (which, YES, everyone has) still usually break them down into two four-group categories, and it doesn't change the fact that according to strict theory, Sim is correct... if you flip the J/P thing, it flips all your introverted functions to extroverted and vice versa.
    Which is why strict function order theory.... is bullshit, basically. If someone is borderline J/P, or even flips, they aren't going to turn into some bi-polar person with all their function uses switching.

    And not all types are going to use the same 4 top functions the most, in the same order. MBTI and functions are like two different systems, almost. They don't always or even usually fit together.

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    I have had many people question that I am ISTP, some ISTPs say I am ISTJ. My post count has pretty much doubled in the last few months.

    Have never had someone pin my as an N though. I agree with the OP in that I dont talk about "MBTI" IRL, while I will do tend to work peoples actual personality into conversations and always have, but on a personal level instead of a categorical level.
    Im out, its been fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Which is why strict function order theory.... is bullshit, basically. If someone is borderline J/P, or even flips, they aren't going to turn into some bi-polar person with all their function uses switching.
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