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    Quote Originally Posted by Woaden View Post
    I get very confused when it comes to translating "What does one need that for?" or something of that nature because instead of "was" it becomes "worüber brauchst man das für". And then there's the braucht/brauchst/brauchen and all its other forms. I haven't learned all that when I was learning the adverbs so naturally I'm very confused. I just don't know why it changes forms, and I don't know how to construct a sentence that is grammatically correct, bar the simple English "structured" translations.
    Not exactly.

    "What does one need that for?" would be "Wofür braucht man das?" (What-for needs one that?)
    Similarly "Where do you come from?" would be "Woher kommst du?" (Where-from come you?) or "Wo kommst du her?" (Where come you from?) and "Where are you going (to)" would be "Wohin gehst du?" (Where-to go you?) or "Wo gehst du hin?" (Where go you to?)

    The point is that, yes, "what" is "was", but in the example you gave you didn't really ask what as in "What is that?" which would be "Was ist das?" (What is that?) but "What ...for?" and there is a special word for that which is wofür. Just as "Where are you?" is "Wo bist du?" (Where are you?) but there is a special word for "Where ...from?" which is woher and a special word for "where ... to?" which is wohin.

    Otherwise, as Sultan of Beans has said it's relatively straightforward:
    who - wer
    what - was
    where - wo
    why - warum / weshalb
    how - wie


    As far as verbs are concerned, they are conjugated as in most European languages. Old English did it and you still have a few traces of that left: I am, you are, he/she/it is ...! We do the same thing in German, as do the French or the Russians. It is extremely important to get a grab on how to conjugate regular verbs at an early point, as you'll need that for any sentence.

    That should be taught a very early point in any method. Do you take classes or do you teach yourself? If you do teach yourself, do you use a book or a website? Maybe a somewhat more structured approach would be helpful (as an addition to normal lessons, not to replaqce them), even though that has become a bit out of fashion and most modern methods are messy about the grammar and stress jumping right in and learning useful phrases rather than the abstract architecture of a language./*INTP*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Herring View Post
    Not exactly.

    "What does one need that for?" would be "Wofür braucht man das?" (What-for needs one that?)
    Similarly "Where do you come from?" would be "Woher kommst du?" (Where-from come you?) or "Wo kommst du her?" (Where come you from?) and "Where are you going (to)" would be "Wohin gehst du?" (Where-to go you?) or "Wo gehst du hin?" (Where go you to?)

    The point is that, yes, "what" is "was", but in the example you gave you didn't really ask what as in "What is that?" which would be "Was ist das?" (What is that?) but "What ...for?" and there is a special word for that which is wofür. Just as "Where are you?" is "Wo bist du?" (Where are you?) but there is a special word for "Where ...from?" which is woher and a special word for "where ... to?" which is wohin.

    Otherwise, as Sultan of Beans has said it's relatively straightforward:
    who - wer
    what - was
    where - wo
    why - warum / weshalb
    how - wie


    As far as verbs are concerned, they are conjugated as in most European languages. Old English did it and you still have a few traces of that left: I am, you are, he/she/it is ...! We do the same thing in German, as do the French or the Russians. It is extremely important to get a grab on how to conjugate regular verbs at an early point, as you'll need that for any sentence.

    That should be taught a very early point in any method. Do you take classes or do you teach yourself? If you do teach yourself, do you use a book or a website? Maybe a somewhat more structured approach would be helpful (as an addition to normal lessons, not to replaqce them), even though that has become a bit out of fashion and most modern methods are messy about the grammar and stress jumping right in and learning useful phrases rather than the abstract architecture of a language./*INTP*
    I'm learning through Duolingo's lesson plan. It's somewhat effective in giving me the structure, but I don't *completely* understand it. More often than not, I am simply just repeating whatever is shown.

    I do agree that a human teacher would be more effective in setting the basics, and using Duolingo as a homework tool.

    That being said, I'm good at English because I read a lot and surrounded myself with lots of good speakers. Maybe I should start reading German children's books?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woaden View Post

    That being said, I'm good at English because I read a lot and surrounded myself with lots of good speakers. Maybe I should start reading German children's books?
    I just found this via google: 15 Great German Children's Books for Beginners | FluentU German

    These are definitely all classics but only the first four would be for real beginners. I grew up with these. If you have only just started the rest would have to wait. Maybe you can find some bilingual publication, German on the right and English on the left or something like that? There are also children's programs to teach German children English, maybe you could use those in reverse? I'll see if I can find one online.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Herring View Post
    I just found this via google: 15 Great German Children's Books for Beginners | FluentU German

    These are definitely all classics but only the first four would be for real beginners. I grew up with these. If you have only just started the rest would have to wait. Maybe you can find some bilingual publication, German on the right and English on the left or something like that? There are also children's programs to teach German children English, maybe you could use those in reverse? I'll see if I can find one online.
    Thank you very much for your help! I'll get on it right away.

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    I know this is pedantry, but they got a good chunk of their video clips from 'In A World...' which was explicitly criticizing vocal fry. It's kinda like showing clips from Airplane on an expose on the airline industry.

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