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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    I'm still trying to figure that out. He seems to be a big fan of Saint Augustine, so I guess he was a heavy influence. He doesn't seem to believe in the big bang theory (which is reasonable), and he once replied to this Dawkins video on facebook saying ex nihilo nihil fit (a general principle that says "nothing comes from nothing", {lawyers love latin}).

    When I alluded to the ethical bizarreness of the Bible, he said that the Old Testament was sort of a sketch, so the New Testament was the 'real thing'. He recommended this book.
    That certainly does not make him look very smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    That certainly does not make him look very smart.
    Where did he fail? I'm not a Bible expert.

    It's not like I've found a catholic with better arguments for why the Bible states that the rapist man should marry the raped woman and etc etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post

    I'm still trying to figure that out. He seems to be a big fan of Saint Augustine, so I guess he was a heavy influence. He doesn't seem to believe in the big bang theory (which is reasonable), and he once replied to this Dawkins video on facebook saying ex nihilo nihil fit (a general principle that says "nothing comes from nothing", {lawyers love latin}).
    He has it wrong. Nothing from nothing leaves nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    Where did he fail? I'm not a Bible expert.

    It's not like I've found a catholic with better arguments for why the Bible states that the rapist man should marry the raped woman and etc etc.
    Oh, that part actually makes sense. A raped woman lost her virginity and therefor her market value. No decent man will want a sandwich that somebody else has already chewed on. She is soiled and no longer marriage material and therefor doomed to extreme poverty unless her rapist is obliged to marry her. Unless of course your worldview and values differ from that of the ancient Middle East...

    I think @Nicodemus was referring to St Augustine, the Latin quote and the weak reasoning behind it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    Where did he fail? I'm not a Bible expert.
    The Old Testament was written and revised over hundreds of years. It is as far from a sketch as a book can be. The New Testament, written over the course of a few decades by a series of revolutionaries with dubious motives, comes much closer to the definition. Both, of course, were written by mortal men without any help from above. So, he can choose to regard the OT as a sketch and the NT as the real thing, but reason could not have led him to that view. I bet he started there.

    I also suspect he does not fully understand the implications of the big bang. Similarly, relying on word logic (ex nihilo nihil fit) to understand complex physical concepts or reality is generally a bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    It's not like I've found a catholic with better arguments for why the Bible states that the rapist man should marry the raped woman and etc etc.
    Morality is relative. Christians have a hard time accepting that; hence the absurd arguments.

    I find it interesting, though, that you even tried the ethical road. Deciding whether or not something is true is not influenced by whether or not it feels good.

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    It fascinating, despite the simplicity of its expression, how not only how most psychological norms and dynamics held within a social context of each gender generally persist between childhood age to adulthood, but also how those same concepts manage to slightly evolve in their manifestation, while retaining the same inherent principles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigmata View Post
    It fascinating, despite the simplicity of its expression, how not only how most psychological norms and dynamics held within a social context of each gender generally persist between childhood age to adulthood, but also how those same concepts manage to slightly evolve in their manifestation, while retaining the same inherent principles.
    I don't know. I don't see why norms would suddenly change upon adulthood. I really wouldn't expect them to, although you are correct that they really don't change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    I don't know. I don't see why norms would suddenly change upon adulthood. I really wouldn't expect them to, although you are correct that they really don't change.
    I don't really expect them to change, either. Yet on the other hand I guess I'd never really devoted any amount of conscious thought towards the subject.

    My post was more from a dissociative perspective, only really to say "Hey, I find it mildly interesting that X trait is really the adulthood equivalent of Y trait that most children would express in situation Z"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    A former colleague, an INTJ who used to be a diehard atheist, has recently become a Christian. Wow.

    He's likely the smartest guy I know irl.
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