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    Quote Originally Posted by JivinJeffJones View Post
    I've spent at least 15 mins fantasizing how I'd kick their asses if I'd been there. At one stage I caught myself twitching I was throwing fantasy punches so hard. Does that count?
    I was doing the same thing -- so no.
    and it's nice enough to
    make a man
    weep, but I don't
    weep, do
    you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JivinJeffJones View Post
    Happened upon this during a news trawl and am currently hating my gender.

    There's just so

    fucking

    much

    of it

    ETA: and now I'm wondering if my revulsion is in itself a weird form of sexism. Do I feel particularly badly for these girls because they're girls? Is that kinda sexist?
    I find it makes sense to react to systems rather than individuals. There is a system that justifies certain behaviors in one gender's mind towards another (not equally in each individual, but generally). In that way it isn't inherent to the gender, but it is a culturally imposed system worth rejecting. I also think that when we experience a culturally instilled power imbalance that it isn't about getting it perfect, but to be open to continual internal revision.
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    Of course I've kicked ass 5, mayyyyybe 6 times in my life and even then not literally. So the odds of ass-kickage proceeding from my person upon demand are no more than modest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JivinJeffJones View Post
    Of course I've kicked ass 5, mayyyyybe 6 times in my life and even then not literally. So the odds of ass-kickage proceeding from my person upon demand are no more than modest.
    I just use astral projection to kick ass. It's easy once you get used to it.
    The first man to raise a fist is the man who's run out of ideas. H.G. WELLS
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    It does make me wonder how many "success stories" I've heard of the results of being confident, forceful and openly sexual are actually unwitting rape/sexual-harassment stories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nijntje View Post
    if i make cookies will all my problems magically go away?
    if your problems are a lack of sugar and chocolate in your diet, then yes.
    Don't know how much it'll bend til it breaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JivinJeffJones View Post
    It does make me wonder how many "success stories" I've heard of the results of being confident, forceful and openly sexual are actually unwitting rape/sexual-harassment stories.
    The obvious answer would be you can tell what kind of story it is if the girl likes it, but how often do guys delude themselves into thinking the girl likes it?

    ?

    Clearly a lot.



    Being confident, direct, openly sexual, and even forceful has its place and is successful. Certainly seems that way. But coupled with that if you have:

    - a sense of security and safety - establish/demonstrate boundaries - is she comfortable with you? you with her? (no? then back up and fix that before even thinking of anything else)

    - clear communication - establish rapport

    - "enthusiastic consent" - not merely "going along with it", but is she really into it? if you're guessing, you're probably in risky territory. don't guess. ask if you need to. (i think it's easiest to screw this one up, especially with quieter types of people where their enthusiasm doesn't peak dramatically higher than baseline, so the less variability they display the more careful/sensitive you need to be)

    - a sense that she's free to choose who or what she wants when she wants it



    ...then you can avoid a lot of problems and everyone will be better off for it.
    Don't know how much it'll bend til it breaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JivinJeffJones View Post
    Happened upon this during a news trawl and am currently hating my gender.

    There's just so

    fucking

    much

    of it

    ETA: and now I'm wondering if my revulsion is in itself a weird form of sexism. Do I feel particularly badly for these girls because they're girls? Is that kinda sexist?
    Of course your revulsion isn't sexist. Jesus. It blows my mind that people even have to ask these sorts of questions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Ah yes, is being a male and finding sexism objectionable just male chauvinism? Or paternalism? A through going feminism IS going to brand those things sexist and punish them all the same. Its part of the reason I dont endorse feminism anymore, at least not uncritically.

    Those reports are totally and utterly reprehensible, are they going to have any impact upon anyone other than those individuals who already are conscientious enough to find them unconscienable and wrong?

    A lot of the arcane and ancient, and rejected for being so, spiritual and cultural ideas of the past declared nothing short of all out war upon behaviour and thinking of the kind which is manifest in those reports, and often more successfully than feminism, although they were all jettisoned by liberals and blind alley liberators of the relatively recent past.
    What utter bullshit.
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    Terrible things happen to good people every day.
    Consequentially, I am not one of the good people.
    I am one of the terrible things.
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