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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    Note to self: don't trust N dominants, they think death and destruction (in theory) are "exciting."

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    Man watching Oliver Stone's Untold History of the US some of the archive footage from the war is shocking to say the least, really and truly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginkgo View Post


    But seriously, just do an image search on Google and put the word "chernobyl" in. Go for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post


    But seriously, just do an image search on Google and put the word "chernobyl" in. Go for it.
    Jesus. Even my graphics driver freaked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qlip View Post
    On behalf of ENFPs, I disagree.
    I just don't understand how it even happens, how detached from reality does a person have to be to think hey this would be romantic or exciting when there's ample proof of just how mind-bendingly horrifying the consequences are even in small amounts, let alone on a large scale.

    It's weird, I actually almost feel like I have a more vivid imagination than they do, that they can't read historical documents or look at photographs and not draw their own conclusions.

    Is it because Se imagination is based in reality and Ne is based on "what if"? Or is this actually having Fi or Fe in a stronger position, where you empathize with other people and see that things could happen to me or people I know, not just people on the other side of the world?

    Is it because I know so many people from the other side of the world? Is it because I was a child when these things were impressed upon me as being reality and not just a desensitized abstract concept?

    I'm not sure anyone who was alive during WWII thinks it's "exciting" and I wonder if anyone who was a child when the Chernobyl disaster happened actually think this sounds like some abstract good times?

    What kind of idiot thinks this way? "Oh in a certain light, being lit on fire sounds exciting."

    I'm actually upset about this. I don't think any human being should be allowed to be that desensitized. It's what creates nuclear wars and disasters in the first place, desensitization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    I just don't understand how it even happens, how detached from reality does a person have to be to think hey this would be romantic or exciting when there's ample proof of just how mind-bendingly horrifying the consequences are even in small amounts, let alone on a large scale.

    It's weird, I actually almost feel like I have a more vivid imagination than they do, that they can't read historical documents or look at photographs and not draw their own conclusions.

    Is it because Se imagination is based in reality and Ne is based on "what if"? Or is this actually having Fi or Fe in a stronger position, where you empathize with other people and see that things could happen to me or people I know, not just people on the other side of the world?

    Is it because I know so many people from the other side of the world? Is it because I was a child when these things were impressed upon me as being reality and not just a desensitized abstract concept?

    I'm not sure anyone who was alive during WWII thinks it's "exciting" and I wonder if anyone who was a child when the Chernobyl disaster happened actually think this sounds like some abstract good times?

    What kind of idiot thinks this way? "Oh in a certain light, being lit on fire sounds exciting."

    I'm actually upset about this. I don't think any human being should be allowed to be that desensitized. It's what creates nuclear wars and disasters in the first place, desensitization.

    I think maybe destruction scenarios like this can be exciting.. but it's implied (empty buildings) there aren't casualties beyond corporations (if one were to believe corporations were people, that is. ha).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    I just don't understand how it even happens, how detached from reality does a person have to be to think hey this would be romantic or exciting when there's ample proof of just how mind-bendingly horrifying the consequences are even in small amounts, let alone on a large scale.

    It's weird, I actually almost feel like I have a more vivid imagination than they do, that they can't read historical documents or look at photographs and not draw their own conclusions.

    Is it because Se imagination is based in reality and Ne is based on "what if"? Or is this actually having Fi or Fe in a stronger position, where you empathize with other people and see that things could happen to me or people I know, not just people on the other side of the world?

    Is it because I know so many people from the other side of the world? Is it because I was a child when these things were impressed upon me as being reality and not just a desensitized abstract concept?

    I'm not sure anyone who was alive during WWII thinks it's "exciting" and I wonder if anyone who was a child when the Chernobyl disaster happened actually think this sounds like some abstract good times?

    What kind of idiot thinks this way? "Oh in a certain light, being lit on fire sounds exciting."

    I'm actually upset about this. I don't think any human being should be allowed to be that desensitized. It's what creates nuclear wars and disasters in the first place, desensitization.
    I think there's a difference between a play-fighting mentality and a serious-fighting mentality. I don't think I would be able to build lasting relationships without a spirit of jest about serious issues. It seems like everyone I've known, sensor or intuitive, functions more efficiently toward a goal when they just get over they're emotional hindrances by assuming a playful sort of confidence. You saw Argo, right? The survivors from the American Embassy in Iran would have failed to escape if they continued to dwell on the grimness of their situation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lexicon View Post
    I think maybe destruction scenarios like this can be exciting.. but it's implied (empty buildings) there aren't casualties beyond corporations (if one were to believe corporations were people, that is. ha).


    Haha, this is the first thought bubble that popped in my head when I read marm's post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexicon View Post
    I think maybe destruction scenarios like this can be exciting.. but it's implied (empty buildings) there aren't casualties beyond corporations (if one were to believe corporations were people, that is. ha).

    I think violent scenarios can be exciting, when the people "deserve" it in some way (like revenge movies on a murderer or pedophile or violent rapist or evil dictator something) ...and yeah it can be exciting to see something (an object) be blown up.

    There is also something visceral about war that makes people want to have sex or get married, it's principally the idea of death being right in your face, it may be why as a pre-pubescent girl between about 7-12 I somehow internalized Russians as being fascinating or Russian men being "sexy" despite the extreme ugliness of Mikhail Gorbachev. I also mentioned how my younger sister, though a young adult over 18 when it happened, basically ran off and married a Muslim man within a couple of years after 9/11 happened, and divorced him less than a year later, showing probably that it was that kind of "war love" idea that young people sometimes have.

    I'm not denying that these things happen, but nuclear war is such an obviously horrifying thing that has such wide-scale consequences on innocent people, and upon plant and animal life on earth, that I just want other people to accept the reality of that.

    Maybe it's more "real" to me because it was so impressed upon me as a child, I don't know.

    To me, being my age and having my life experience, it would be like me starting a thread asking people wouldn't massive acts of terrorism in major U.S. cities be exciting in a certain light?

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    Hmmm, when you check the right threads and traces it all makes sense.
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