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    Quote Originally Posted by BlahBlahNounBlah View Post
    You swing ESFJ? So if I get you drunk, will you clean my room?




    Actually, I just realized that when I'm drunk, I always have an urge to clean. Hmmmm.
    Uh huh, you swing ESFJ on occasion too. NTP+SFJ are interrelated that way because we all share the same functions Fe/Ne/Si/Ti.

    Actually, growing into middle age and developing the weaker functions to a greater extent, all four NTP and SFJ types start to blend together and appreciate each other a lot more because suddenly all four functions form a cohesive person instead of one or two forming an unbalanced one that strictly opposes the weaker two.

    Same is true for NFJ+STP, NTJ+SFP, and NFP+STJ, believe it or not.
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    There's no way you're anything but ENTP *sigh*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    There's no way you're anything but ENTP *sigh*
    Just get me drunk and I'll ESFJ all over you!

    (That's cause I like you though--people I don't like get the cold INTP side.)
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post

    Actually Ni is extremely evident in some posters--look at edgar or antisocial one or poppy or toonia. Examples abound; these posters consistently approach discussions by reframing the question from a different perspective, which you never do.

    Nothing like reading someone try and explain a function they know absolutely nothing about.
    Stick to rattling your chains about Ne. Ni is out of your league.

    "Who needs facts, evidence, and 'reality' when you have Ni?"

    If you don't know who I just quoted, quit talking about Ni to Lauren when you know nothing about it to begin with.

    As far as Edgar is concerned, Edgar is so dom Te it's ridiculous.
    That fact that he chose INTJ has nothing to do with his dominant function-which is in fact, Te.
    By the way, Poppy doesn't even really trust her Ni that much when dealing with people. She said so, herself.

    For you to think that Ni is simply about changing perspectives is nothing short of ludicrous.
    Get Gary Hartzler's book entitled: Functions of Type.
    Then you won't look so silly talking about things you know nothing about.
    In the mean time, LEARN:

    Introverted iNtuition (Ni)

    * Foreseeing
    * Conceptualizing
    * Understanding complex patterns
    * Synthesizing and symbolizing
    * Future

    "This is how it will be."
    "Aha, that's it!"

    When Ni is a preferred process:

    * You usually feel a certainty about what is going to happen, often without much detail and without being able to trace the actual data that would support the prediction.
    * You focus on "what will be."
    * You are energized by transformational visions of how someone can grow or of a completely original approach to get there.
    * You are drawn to make those visions manifest.
    * Frequently you experience flashes of insight that present themselves as very broad themes and complex whole patterns or systems of thought without being triggered by external events.
    * Inner images come as a knowing that taps into universal symbols and with a certainty that they are true.

    Introverted Intuiting is about Seeking Insights and Meanings

    It focuses on:

    * Identifying underlying meaning
    * Identifying the inter-relatedness of data
    * Synthesizing the information to reveal the "golden nuggets"

    Its approach is to:

    * Just state how or what action to take
    * Rely on insight to develop vision for the future
    * Envision without the need for tangible support

    Introverted Intuiting's verbal communications are delivered in absolutes with a quest for meaning, i.e.:

    * "Why?"
    * Identifying the hidden meaning
    * States what is going on behind the scenes

    Introverted Intuiting's nonverbal cues are: reflective, serious, and confident; may appear complex, disengaged; could appear hesitant to respond.

    To build rapport with introverted Intuiting, we can try:

    * Providing a theoretical framework
    * Using symbolic, conceptual language
    * Relating concrete experience to theories
    * Asking them to show you how they made their connections
    * Asking for the long-term vision

    Here are the sorts of complaints we make about introverted Intuiting when we feel uncomfortable. We say the person is:

    * Serious and arrogant
    * Complex and vague
    * Theoretical or lacking specifics
    * Inflexible and adversarial
    * Out of touch with reality

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    Do you have any original content to add here or are you just going to copy paste out of books?

    I can't really recall ever having said anything about how seeing different perspectives was the only thing Ni does. In fact I'm pretty sure I didn't say anything of the sort.

    Don't let that stop you, though. Soldier on!


    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar
    * Out of touch with reality
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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Well the Fe definitely comes out...like when I'm super drunk I just become extremely honest with everyone, even moreso than usual, so if I like you, you'll get a silly outpouring of emotional support to make up for all the appreciation I'm too oblivious to express verbally when I'm sober.

    If I don't like you, though, it probably won't be pretty. I don't drink much these days, primarily for that reason.

    ENFJ doesn't work, though, because I just don't show any Ni. My creativity works by connecting unrelated ideas across vastly different contexts, not so much by reducing to the most basic hidden dynamics governing everything around me.

    "Between two, a small discrepancy: One complicates [Ne] and one simplifies [Ni]."
    But...it sounds like alcohol is just making you more emotionally uninhibited. It does that for lots of people, including me. I don't become Te/Si if I'm drunk - more likely if I'm pissed off or stressed out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    But...it sounds like alcohol is just making you more emotionally uninhibited. It does that for lots of people, including me. I don't become Te/Si if I'm drunk - more likely if I'm pissed off or stressed out.

    Yeah, when I'm drunk, I'm just me but with an urge to clean. In some ways, I'm actually *more* like me. My Ne goes completely nuts, and it's already my dominant (some might say "only") function.
    I have a vagina.


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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Do you have any original content to add here or are you just going to copy paste out of books?
    Your attempt to change the subject doesn't change the fact you know nothing about Ni.
    Typology is not for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    But...it sounds like alcohol is just making you more emotionally uninhibited. It does that for lots of people, including me. I don't become Te/Si if I'm drunk - more likely if I'm pissed off or stressed out.
    Well, that's just what alcohol does to me personally. Not everyone is affected the same way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Your attempt to change the subject doesn't change the fact you know nothing about Ni.
    Typology is not for you.
    Maybe I'd better get a degree in bullshit first?
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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    Guys, get the f*ck back on topic!
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