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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallulah View Post
    Agreed. I think he had decided that he'd make his Beyonce statement, no matter who won, whether it was Taylor Swift, Pink, Kelly Clarkson, or whomever. What he didn't count on was that people don't take kindly to jerkwads ruining a 19-year-old's moment in the sun. They got protective of Swift, as they should. He didn't realize he'd done anything wrong until he got booed. However, the state of celebrityhood being what it is, he'll get more rounds of publicity from the apology and be bigger than ever.

    I know everyone was in shock and all, but I couldn't believe that no one on or off stage rushed over to put an arm around her while she stood there alone. Her sadness and disappointment were palpable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usehername View Post
    I said it wasn't comparable. Katrina revolves around serious political issues that affected lives in very dramatic ways. The facts of Katrina are irrelevant, what is relevant is that it was a very consequential topic, so speaking one's mind (however ill-ordered or illogical that mind may be) is justified. an overflow of emotions outside the realm of logic is justified given the serious context and time proximity to the disaster.

    That is not comparable to an outburst at a freaking awards show where people put on nice clothes and hold a funny trophy, ultimately staining a kid's first moment in the sun.

    They're two different arenas, they're not comparable.
    I understand what you're saying but it kind of hinges on the belief that the national importance of an issue is directly proportional to its importance to him. You could argue that he would be more justified in having an emotional outburst about someone he personally knows than being a jackass for people outside the monkey sphere. Although, I don't think saying whatever you want because the topic is important is really justified.
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    My favorite was the Patrick Swayze one.
    Yeah, me too. I hate to admit it, but I laughed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    I understand what you're saying but it kind of hinges on the belief that the national importance of an issue is directly proportional to its importance to him. You could argue that he would be more justified in having an emotional outburst about someone he personally knows than being a jackass for people outside the monkey sphere. Although, I don't think saying whatever you want because the topic is important is really justified.
    That is a very good counter-argument. I change my position to incorporate that. (I meant justified in the sense that from his POV, it makes sense, but with your interpretation I can see how one might construe them as comparable.

    Ohh pleeeeeease. George Bush was not responsible for "neglect" of anybody in New Orleans. The federal government spent TONS of money on Katrina relief. A lot of it cleaning up after people who could have prepared for what happened in the first place. A bunch of people were given free shelter in Houston for two years! And that's just one example of all the work that was done to help hurricane victims.

    Sorry, but there was no "justified anger" towards Bush for his response to Katrina. He could have made a speech and said "Sucks to be you, don't live on the Gulf Coast. They have a lot of them there hurricanes down there." But he didn't, obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Ashley View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usehername View Post
    an overflow of emotions outside the realm of logic is justified given the serious context and time proximity to the disaster.
    According to your line of thinking, he would have been "justified" in firing a gun at the camera.

    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    Although, I don't think saying whatever you want because the topic is important is really justified.
    Agreed.

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    "Kanye West does not care about Taylor Swift people."







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    I finally found the actual clip where he says that.
    There's so many fakes of this on youtube.
    You can tell that he knows he's doing something very wrong because he's nervous about the impending blowback.
    Someone on Youtube has the theory that it was just a publicity stunt.
    I think he's probably right. It's fake like wrestling.
    Taylor's reaction looks phony too, like she knew this was planned.
    Can some INFJ's tell me what you make of their behavior?
    You guys are supposed to be great at reading people.

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