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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    Since when does the Intuitive's intuitions have to be right? Intuitives that are right are called psychics.
    Wow you actually said something I 110% agree with you about.
    Relationships have normal ebbs and flows. They do not automatically get better and better when the participants learn more and more about each other. Instead, the participants have to work through the tensions of the relationship (the dialectic) while they learn and group themselves and a parties in a relationships. At times the relationships is very open and sharing. Other time, one or both parties to the relationship need their space, or have other concerns, and the relationship is less open. The theory posits that these cycles occur throughout the life of the relationship as the persons try to balance their needs for privacy and open relationship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    Wow you actually said something I 110% agree with you about.
    Blasphemers!



    Quote Originally Posted by athenian200 View Post
    Unbelievable overreactions. No wonder people are afraid to question other people's types, the practice is almost viewed as pejorative, and questioning someone's reasoning or trying to account for potential bias is viewed as a personal attack. Sigh, let's do ourselves a favor and bury this. I'm sorry I ever brought it up. Wow.
    Hmm... dare I say we found our Iago?
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    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    Wow you actually said something I 110% agree with you about.
    Wow! 110%! A new record!!!

    I guess you previously agreed with me on about 100%, yes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    Wow! 110%! A new record!!!

    I guess you previously agreed with me on about 100%, yes?
    Relationships have normal ebbs and flows. They do not automatically get better and better when the participants learn more and more about each other. Instead, the participants have to work through the tensions of the relationship (the dialectic) while they learn and group themselves and a parties in a relationships. At times the relationships is very open and sharing. Other time, one or both parties to the relationship need their space, or have other concerns, and the relationship is less open. The theory posits that these cycles occur throughout the life of the relationship as the persons try to balance their needs for privacy and open relationship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natrushka View Post
    I just can't get past the smileys! <snort>

    It must be an online personality vs. offline personality situation.
    I never saw Economica as INTJ at all, particularly due to smilies and un-NT behaviour. Again, it's hard to say because we INTJs are quite varied, and you can't tell if their online flaking out and being erratic is because they're an Extrovert (like my brother/sister-in-law), an Introvert hiding away, or just because life enforces it upon them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Usehername View Post
    I use smilies b/c they're more efficient in text communication rather than constantly explaining feelings with words.
    See, yet again. You keep coming off as something else - you don't write like an INTJ. I've known quite a few and none, including those younger than you, would write as you do. Until your Christianity thread I was starting to think you just couldn't be. Thanks to this new evidence the jury is still out... There aren't many other types that can maintain such idiosyncratic and conflicting internal religious views while claiming and appearing to utilize logic in the process.

    Quote Originally Posted by Natrushka View Post
    FTR, I was referring specifically to Eco and her post above. I've never thought you weren't an INTJ primarily because I a) haven't seen much from you by way of posts (you've been 'disappeared' until recently) and b) I don't typically wonder if so and so isn't what they say.
    I don't even bother with the claimed types anymore. I internalize a thought pattern, which is how my mind chats with people online while I'm asleep (these are weird dreams) - pattern-based preemption. I associate personalities through their patterns.

    On "disappearing": I do this in person and online. I disappeared from my blogging and this site for a while without mentioning why, I just wandered off from the group in Vegas, I often just go somewhere late at night and never tell anyone where I went or why. We're flighty, cat-like, and prickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by athenian200 View Post
    ...blah blah blah...
    OMG! I see a Super Nintendo in one of your pics!

    I don't know why I find this so funny, but I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    god, you have to give him this much -- he's quick, isn't he?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf View Post
    See, yet again. You keep coming off as something else - you don't write like an INTJ. I've known quite a few and none, including those younger than you, would write as you do. Until your Christianity thread I was starting to think you just couldn't be. Thanks to this new evidence the jury is still out... There aren't many other types that can maintain such idiosyncratic and conflicting internal religious views while claiming and appearing to utilize logic in the process.
    I've read, in detail, at least 5 descriptions for each of the 16 types. I have no question as to whether or not I'm an INTJ. (I am yet unconvinced that type doesn't change throughout life... but I'm an INTJ now )

    I don't maintain "conflicting internal religious views"; I have never claimed to have it all figured out, but being an INTJ does not make one allergic to Christianity. C. S. Lewis and Real Live Preacher are both famous examples.

    I think you're forgetting to expand your pool of INTJs into those who tremendously value relationships and people (in theory; sometimes people are just plain patience-testing creatures ). I'd assume female INTJs would generally value these more than males. And don't forget that I'm not an extreme introvert, and my family consists of 5 xxFxs and me. Environment and genes; it's always an interaction!)
    But an INTJ who cares about others, would care that their needs are being met, would care that they're feeling valued, validated, etc. and I would venture to guess that Economica and I likely just have consciously decided to value this, and possibly she has, like I have, been constantly exposed to xxFxs and has also learned this second language fluently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I hate being blunt, but you should work some more on that intuition.
    I am working on it as we speak.

    For the past few months, after the reality of my closed-minded certitude came crashing down on me, I have been afraid to follow my iNtuition, preferring to err on the side of caution. Now I feel more secure in my ability to absorb contrary input and hence my judgment and so I am beginning to dare to go out on a limb again.

    I was wondering this for quite awhile, and Nat had nothing to do with it.
    I am open to the possibility that you have not communicated privately regarding my type; however, neither one of you is doing a good job of being convincing. Natrushka posted for hours earlier today but waited until a while after you had come online to issue her denial; you yourself are being colder now than I believe you would be (insulted or not) if there was no truth to my accusation. Considering that she has several good reasons not to enjoy my posts on this board and that I have placed you between a rock (forsaking your friend) and a hard place (lying) if there is truth to my accusation, I am not yet convinced that I should ditch my iNtuitive shot in favor of taking your denials at face value.

    Oh, and given the discrepancy between your beliefs regarding my type, I don't buy that it is actually athenian200 who is your Iago. (Unless you really are going by the Disney version. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf View Post
    OMG! I see a Super Nintendo in one of your pics!

    I don't know why I find this so funny, but I do.
    That was one of the first things I noticed too.

    I didn't think that it looked that disorganized, though. Maybe that has something to do with the fact that I am a male college student, though....
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