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    I haven't felt the need to doubt Economica's INTJ'ness because of her warmth or what seems like feeling, and use of smilies.

    Not so long ago a guy I used to flirt and muck around with on another forum, also the least macho (yet very macho if you get what I mean) man I knew, always smiley huggles and pure warmth, very lovey dovey, turned out to be an INTJ. I was suprised as I had assumed they would be no different from the INTP's who don't really radiate much warmth all of the time (exceptions to that rule do apply occasionally).

    So by the time I came here I was already shod of that notion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sahara View Post
    I haven't felt the need to doubt Economica's INTJ'ness because of her warmth or what seems like feeling, and use of smilies.
    Besides, an INTJ will have Fi as the third function. Usually Fi's can exude real warmth towards others. A mature INTJ will develop it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    Why do you assume this? What about those of us who know SJ's in our real offline life?
    I don't know about you, but I have a pool of formally tested people that I can draw upon in order to see how valid the stereotypes are. What I see here are a lot of assumptions based upon type, which is then pushed onto those we identify particular traits in.

    I would say the assumption isn't mine - least, it is observed behaviour with a pretty good foundation. Many prefer what was described - so do many that don't test SJ. I don't have a research-sized group since only a small part of the company got tested, whereas a lot more got tested with two other instruments...

    Regardless, it seems that I've had this debate a hundred times... if you wish - or anyone - wishes to use type to stereotype behaviour, nothing I say will change it. I've accepted that and moved on.

    The exception is when that is done to me. If anyone thinks I should be a certain type based on generalisations, I will point out how inaccurate that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    The exception is when that is done to me. If anyone thinks I should be a certain type based on generalisations, I will point out how inaccurate that is.
    Besides, SURLY is five letters, not four.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Besides, SURLY is five letters, not four.
    I have become more surly since I changed my type to ISTP.

    I think everyone should change their type once in their lifetime. It opens your eyes. A lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    I have become more surly since I changed my type to ISTP.

    I think everyone should change their type once in their lifetime. It opens your eyes. A lot.
    True that. It's quite liberating.
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    I changed mine to BABE once, but the joke did not go over as well as had been expected.

    (I suppose that was an eye-opener too.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I changed mine to BABE once, but the joke did not go over as well as had been expected.

    (I suppose that was an eye-opener too.)
    Oh, I think that you are already changing your type That'll probably give you more insight than I can ever hope to achieve

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    sometimes i wish that this was the jungcentral and not the mbticentral. one of jungs main theories on ageing is the individualization process which dictates that as our psyches become more developed (or simply older if you do nothing for you personal development) you start conquering more and more of your inferior functions, thus exhibiting a broader register of archetypical behaviors, including those of other types.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackwater View Post
    sometimes i wish that this was the jungcentral and not the mbticentral. one of jungs main theories on aging is the individualization process which dictates that as our psyches become more developed (or simply older if you do nothing for you personal development) you start conquering more and more of your inferior functions, thus exhibiting a broader register of archetypical behaviors, including those of other types.
    Wait, you can tell us, can't you? About Eco in real life?
    (What was I thinking?)
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