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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    A Nazi emblem is a picture of Hitler.
    You seem to be implying that the nazi party and Hitler are the same thing. While he may have persuaded them, the party did exist before he joined and Hitler did not personally stab every Jew with his own personal knife. I am no fan of Hitler (morally), but you can't put all of the blame on one man.
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    The swazi flag didn't kill anyone, either!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    You seem to be implying that the nazi party and Hitler are the same thing. While he may have persuaded them, the party did exist before he joined and Hitler did not personally stab every Jew with his own personal knife. I am no fan of Hitler (morally), but you can't put all of the blame on one man.
    Hitler's membership card reads number seven. He made the party. It was his speeches in the beercellar that attracted attention. He rewrote the program of the party.
    Hitler alone ordered the massacre of the Jews. He could not do it without war.
    Franco and Mussolini were not bent on killing Jews.
    It was not a Fascist program. It was not a Nationalist program either.

    Hitler did not personally stab every Jew?
    Yes he did.

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    Franco (who I always thought looked like Bill Murray) wanted to exterminate the Basques, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    The swazi flag didn't kill anyone, either!
    SIEG HEIL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldanen View Post
    SIEG HEIL!
    Es ist Zeit für Rache!

    Wir mussen die Juden ausrotten!

    (That's from South Park, don't take offense!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    Franco (who I always thought looked like Bill Murray) wanted to exterminate the Basques, though.
    Franco was a psychopath of a classical order.
    He was ready to kill half of the people of Spain. He did not entertain any kind of a political conviction except that of power. He was not a Fascist.
    He was not anything.
    He used the Church, the hacienda tillers, the Karlists, the Nationalists, the Phalangists: because they were against the Republic. His staunchest ally was Joseph Stalin.
    I do not know if he looked like Bill. I am face blind. But I can see he was a small pot bellied man with weak arms and legs. He had no chin.
    His face was kind of weak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    Hitler's membership card reads number seven. He made the party. It was his speeches in the beercellar that attracted attention. He rewrote the program of the party.
    Hitler alone ordered the massacre of the Jews. He could not do it without war.
    Franco and Mussolini were not bent on killing Jews.
    It was not a Fascist program. It was not a Nationalist program either.

    Hitler did not personally stab every Jew?
    Yes he did.
    I'm not trying to imply that he wasn't the most responsible. All I'm saying is that people had to carry out the orders. If the President came up to me and handed me a gun and said, "Here. Please go kill all Jews," I would still have a choice. I really don't view being brainwashed as part of a mob a legitimate excuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    I'm not trying to imply that he wasn't the most responsible. All I'm saying is that people had to carry out the orders. If the President came up to me and handed me a gun and said, "Here. Please go kill all Jews," I would still have a choice. I really don't view being brainwashed as part of a mob a legitimate excuse.
    What would you do, though, if you were threatened to be killed if you didn't carry out the orders? In general, people say they would choose to be killed before they kill another, but that's easier said than done.

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    Hitler was a fag. Look at the hair cut and the little mustache. Pure queerdom there
    Scuse me, gotta run, some 'feeling type' is walking towards me trying to make something called conversation

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