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    The passive voice should not be feared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    My worst nightmare, this thread is.
    This is inversion, not passive voice (I think). "My worst nightmare" is a predicate nominative.

    I am told by something that I should maybe shut my pie hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhinosaur View Post
    The passive voice is desirable in some fields, including science, as it is believed that this enhances objectivity[1]. A slightly more active voice is occasionally preffered to increase readability, but a fully active voice is uncommon, and such styles may be perceived as unusual or out of place by readers accustomed to the fully passive voice.
    It is believed that the appearance of objectivity is enhanced, though no more actual objectivity is to be gained through its use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eileen View Post
    This is inversion, not passive voice (I think). "My worst nightmare" is a predicate nominative.

    I am told by something that I should maybe shut my pie hole.

    I have heard from your own lips that you have pie! Hand it over!

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    I guess I am unclear of what is meant by passive versus active voice.

    (Let's speak in passive-aggressive voice!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    I guess I am unclear of what is meant by passive versus active voice.

    (Let's speak in passive-aggressive voice!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    It is believed that the appearance of objectivity is enhanced, though no more actual objectivity is to be gained through its use.
    Indeed, a large degree of objectivity can only be acquired through skillful experiment design and use of the scientific method. However, the passive voice can enhance objectivity when drawing conclusions from experimental results, and during peer review. Loss of objectivity during these phases may be just as critical as loss of objectivity in the experimental design, as data interpretation and the peer review process often take much longer than data collection itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhinosaur View Post
    Indeed, most objectivity can only be acquired through skillful experiment design and use of the scientific method. However, the passive voice can enhance objectivity when drawing conclusions from experimental results, and during peer review.
    Hesitant agreement is granted by I.

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    Though aren't data interpretation and peer review generally the most subjective phases of the process?

    Or rather: Isn't it thought that these are the most subjective phases of the process?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bella View Post
    This comes naturally to me....
    How about It is to me that this skill naturally comes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    Though aren't data interpretation and peer review generally the most subjective phases of the process?
    By their very nature, yes. Some subjectivity is always involved, as pure data without hypotheses and theories is worthless. Interpretation cannot be totally objective. However, the system has been designed to attempt to minimize subjectivity.

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