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    I tend to categorize people in the normative manner.

    When it comes to people, I am not too interested in details, rather, I am interested in their core features, yes, including whether or not I find them to be kind or foul, wise or daft, warm or cold, ill-intentioned or misguided.

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    Depending on levels of social intimacy, I vary between Normative and Descriptive.

    Also depends on my intention; this concept seems to include Fe/Te as a basis for judgment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night View Post
    Also depends on my intention; this concept seems to include Fe/Te as a basis for judgment.
    Really?

    Personally, I think it has to do with my Fi, but, I dunno.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    Really?

    Personally, I think it has to do with my Fi, but, I dunno.
    I could be wrong.

    Probably varies from person to person.

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    Those with guns, and those who dig.
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    Do you tend to categorize people more:
    In a Normative Manner? <-- most definitely
    In a Descriptive Manner?

    I tend to place people in normative categories pretty quickly, and adjust as new insights come to light.

    Which do you tend to use in various circumstances?

    When thinking about person X or describing person X in depth to someone else, I tend to use normative categories, as that's what's most meaningful to me.

    When giving a brief description of person X (to ring a bell in someone else's head), I use descriptive categories (usually several, because no one is only "the girl obsessed with Shostakovich").

    Which do you think is more appropriate to use in various circumstances?

    When you don't know someone well, it's best to reserve judgements (and Normative categories are basically judgements), and stick to what you know about the person (ie. descriptive categories). However, once you start to learn about person X as a person, it's better to get normative. The descriptive categories are very limited and only reflect the context in which you know X.

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    Srsly tho, I wasn't being facetious. Cheesy as it is, it's a classic and, I think, tells a stark and profound truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by substitute View Post
    Those with guns, and those who dig.
    Quote Originally Posted by substitute View Post
    Srsly tho, I wasn't being facetious. Cheesy as it is, it's a classic and, I think, tells a stark and profound truth.
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    I may watch the movie, but could you explain what you meant?

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    I assign people points based on a variety of factors that are sensitive to my social situation. The point system is elaborate and complex and much too detailed to explain here, but basically, I will assign 1-5 points based on location-specific value (internal, external), and general value (internal, external). Each dimension has a variety of factors. The location-specific vary with where I am (e.g., expertise, excellence, dexterity), but the general values stay constant (e.g., intelligence, social fluidity, mood, friendliness, etc). I then tally the points and arrive at two value scores that I index as a ratio of specific:general value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo View Post
    I may watch the movie, but could you explain what you meant?
    Uh, not really, not without writing an impromptu dissertation... lol

    If I were a cool ISTP like Clint Eastwood I'd be able to distill it into three - no, one word. However, I'm a pleasantly pickled ENTP, therefore even more prone to verbosity than usual.

    How I 'categorize' people isn't really either descriptive of they themselves, nor normative, or much to do with they themselves, but rather, the role they're playing in the context of a given situation. The line from the movie says it rather dramatically, but nonetheless accurately: there are those in the saddle and those in the harness... those with guns, and those who dig... I try not to be either, and to help others to escape those roles too.
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