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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    The OP requested controversies, not conspiracy theories.
    Not that I go in for them, but a conspiracy theory is a controversial opinion. It falls under the category of a controversial opinion, lying within the larger circle of a Venn diagram. Just because you think it's stupid doesn't mean it isn't a controversial opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcan View Post
    Not that I go in for them, but a conspiracy theory is a controversial opinion.

    My thought- it isn't as if they are necessarily wildly accepted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    The OP requested controversies, not conspiracy theories.
    Ooh, ooh, looks like I hit a nerve.
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    Though we did already have a discussion about conspiracy theories, but @hel do have any new or interesting reasonings? Absolutely delighted to reopen that door, and any others anyone wants to share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hel View Post
    Ooh, ooh, looks like I hit a nerve.
    What that your goal/point?

    I can see why coriolis would be offended or not take well to the suggestion, given she is/was part of the military. To them and others it's akin to suggesting the Holocaust never happened, which is profoundly offensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcan View Post
    Not that I go in for them, but a conspiracy theory is a controversial opinion. It falls under the category of a controversial opinion, lying within the larger circle of a Venn diagram. Just because you think it's stupid doesn't mean it isn't a controversial opinion.
    If we are including ideas that are too crazy to be taken seriously, then I suppose conspiracy theories are fair game. I was looking forward to a more . . . substantive discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard View Post
    What that your goal/point?

    I can see why coriolis would be offended or not take well to the suggestion, given she is/was part of the military. To them and others it's akin to suggesting the Holocaust never happened, which is profoundly offensive.
    Hmm, alright then-apologies coriolis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    If we are including ideas that are too crazy to be taken seriously, then I suppose conspiracy theories are fair game. I was looking forward to a more . . . substantive discussion.
    Any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frosty6226 View Post
    Though we did already have a discussion about conspiracy theories, but @hel do have any new or interesting reasonings? Absolutely delighted to reopen that door, and any others anyone wants to share.
    I don't think I have anything new to add to the conversation. I just feel like it's worth considering all the possibilities, and 9/11 as an inside job makes just as much sense to me as every other explanation I've heard. There's been so little transparency around that event. And the information that has been given has never remained consistent. That doesn't have to be indicative of anything, but why shouldn't it be. I think considering it as a possibility is harmless, and I wonder why others are so defensive that they won't even do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard View Post
    What that your goal/point?

    I can see why coriolis would be offended or not take well to the suggestion, given she is/was part of the military. To them and others it's akin to suggesting the Holocaust never happened, which is profoundly offensive.
    No, I don't think those comparisons quite match.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard View Post
    What that your goal/point?

    I can see why coriolis would be offended or not take well to the suggestion, given she is/was part of the military. To them and others it's akin to suggesting the Holocaust never happened, which is profoundly offensive.
    Personal offense doesn't enter into it. The main objection I have to what are typically called conspiracy theories is that the evidence for them is exceedingly thin. If you can actually make a case for one, then it becomes a legitimate hypothesis and is worth discussing.


    Quote Originally Posted by Frosty6226 View Post
    Any ideas?
    Do you mean conspiracy theories? My favorite one is that Pope John Paul I was assassinated by the mafia at the request of conservative cardinals who were afraid he would enact too many reforms to the Catholic church.
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