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    ציפור Julius_Van_Der_Beak's Avatar
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    I remember I got suspended in middle school once for fighting back against bullies. (And some of the bullying was racist.) Something really cool about that was that my mom didn't hold it against me. She didn't act like it was the wrong decision.

    I think she knows about stuff like that because she told me that she used to carry a brick on her way to girl scouts. She apparently was quite a tomboy.

    There are things worth fighting for. You can use the force for knowledge and defense. It's easy to talk about the high road if you have a lot of people and the mores of society backing you up.

    Progress has happened because once upon a time, people fought for it, using one kind of strategy or another.
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    I think that education ought to be state-funded, all the way up to and including the secondary level, but that it ought to not be mandatory after about the 8th grade. And that kids who misbehave badly enough after that point can be expelled for a semester.

    So if growing Timmy can't keep his hormones in check and would rather cause endless annoyance to his teachers and peers, off he goes into the real world! A few months of flipping burgers or doing community service'll get him motivated to mellow out and buckle down!

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    I'm pretty cool with the United States becoming an even more socialist country than it already is.
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    Soccer is a boring spectator sport -- even worse than curling. Baseball is similarly boring, but at least baseball fans are more civilized.
    Liberty means the ability to say "No thanks, perhaps later. I'm gonna go take a nap now."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Passacaglia View Post
    How does Germany do it?
    One of our German members could provide much more detailed/accurate info. From what I understand, after the 4th grade - around age 10-11 - students are separated into one of three tracks leading to (1) university preparation, (2) apprenticeship in a trade, and (3) some middle option leading to white collar professions (this is the option I understand least). The main criticism is that it tracks students too early, when it can be hard to tell their real potential and abilities, and changing tracks is difficult/uncommon. Another criticism is that it leads to classism.

    Americans might do better to delay tracking until high school when students have more of a track record and a better idea of their own goals and interests. What we do now is encourage everyone to go to college, whether that matches their abilities, interests, and career ambitions or not. This puts undue pressure on some students (not to mention the financial pressure on families), and has contributed to turning a university education into something more like job training than true academic work. Somehow we have come to devalue professions that don't require college, like skilled trades, barbers/beauticians, dental assistants, etc. I suppose that makes us the real snobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Passacaglia View Post
    I think that education ought to be state-funded, all the way up to and including the secondary level, but that it ought to not be mandatory after about the 8th grade. And that kids who misbehave badly enough after that point can be expelled for a semester.

    So if growing Timmy can't keep his hormones in check and would rather cause endless annoyance to his teachers and peers, off he goes into the real world! A few months of flipping burgers or doing community service'll get him motivated to mellow out and buckle down!
    Oh. I definately would not have fared well in that world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenbach View Post
    Soccer is a boring spectator sport -- even worse than curling. Baseball is similarly boring, but at least baseball fans are more civilized.
    Oh no! Baseball is great! It is a wonderful combination of a individaulistic sport and a team sport! Its like a well oiled machine! Every part has its own use and if some part cannot do its job correctly then the whole of the design goes all haywire! Its like robot fighting baseball is, each bot has similar gears, lever, and pulleys, but the way it is put together makes the fight exciting!

    I dislike basketball though, too confusing.

    And volleyball is boring. And golf is great in theory but is hell to play. Tennis is the same as volleyball. Honestly football and baseball are the best!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frosty6226 View Post
    Oh no! Baseball is great! It is a wonderful combination of a individaulistic sport and a team sport! Its like a well oiled machine! Every part has its own use and if some part cannot do its job correctly then the whole of the design goes all haywire! Its like robot fighting baseball is, each bot has similar gears, lever, and pulleys, but the way it is put together makes the fight exciting!

    I dislike basketball though, too confusing.

    And volleyball is boring. And golf is great in theory but is hell to play. Tennis is the same as volleyball. Honestly football and baseball are the best!
    I cannot understand what people get out of watching other people play sports. It's like watching someone else go for a hike, or eat an ice cream cone, or visit a museum. I'm no great athlete, but if I'm going to spend time on sports, I want to be playing or doing someting myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    I cannot understand what people get out of watching other people play sports. It's like watching someone else go for a hike, or eat an ice cream cone, or visit a museum. I'm no great athlete, but if I'm going to spend time on sports, I want to be playing or doing someting myself.
    Well Ive never been able to get really connected or anything with one particular team, but I know people who can get really fanatical about the whole thing and know the players stats to such an extensive degree that they are accurately able to predict future plays. Being able to understand that batter 1 is a lefty or whatever and is good at hitting curveballs but that batter 2 has a better at bat ratio but doesnt hit as hard as batter 1 makes it really inticing to get to see those players utilize their abilities and create a more interconnected system where the overall funtcion of the team depends on the management everyone put together! I dont know, personally I never was talented enough to ever really excell athletically so I do not really care for all the grunting, groaning, and cheering or whatever. But when I played softball I was generally first base, and it was awesome that every single decision that I made consistantly reframed the eventual possible outcomes. Like if I tagged out the guy at first base then we might lose the guy at home, but who knows maybe the guy who was running at first base was a really slow runner that we could have ended up getting out at second base and now that I made that particular choice to get the easy out, even though it looked like a great move on the surface, maybe it ended up costing us a run, which could end up costing us the entire game. Aughhhhh I like baseball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenbach View Post
    Soccer is a boring spectator sport -- even worse than curling. Baseball is similarly boring, but at least baseball fans are more civilized.
    I curl. It's far too civilized, especially when you take the huge amount of hard liquor ingestion into account. I'm always amazed fights don't break out during every bonspiel or club event. But I agree, it sucks to be a spectator. Baseball can be boring if you know nothing about the strategy of the game. That aside, it's a glorious sport. Hockey is better than them all and in no way boring.
    I like to rock n' roll all night and *part* of every day. I usually have errands... I can only rock from like 1-3.
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