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    Quote Originally Posted by riva View Post
    Why so much hate?
    It's not hate, but eye-rolling head-shaking. If you do something so dangerous for such silly reasons, you deserve to fail. It's more a matter of principle; I don't wish the actual guy to die.

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    Nikolas Wallenda

    He began performing with his family at the age of two. He belongs to the seventh generation of the Wallenda Family.

    He began walking wire at the age 4.

    His first professional wire performance was at the age of 13.

    At the age of 19, Nik participated in the re-creation of Karl Wallenda's seven-person pyramid on the highwire in Detroit, Michigan by his father.

    The Wallendas' zest for living life on the line has been passed down from generation to generation - over 200 years. It all started with great-grandfather, Karl Wallenda.
    So, he started performing at age 2, but now he's suddenly a wacko for "traumatizing" his kids - as if this is something brand new to the family. I think not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    Watching this now.

    Nick Wallendas Walk
    Have you seen Man on Wire?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    It's not hate, but eye-rolling head-shaking. If you do something so dangerous for such silly reasons, you deserve to fail. It's more a matter of principle; I don't wish the actual guy to die.
    Should a man with a family sell his motorcycle? And yes I know it's not quite the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyyukon View Post
    Should a man with a family sell his motorcycle? And yes I know it's not quite the same.
    No, he should set it free and let it make its own decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    No, he should set it free and let it make its own decisions.
    uummm, YAYYY!!!!
    I've had this ice cream bar, since I was a child!

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    Nik Wallenda's Chicago tightrope walk isn't heroic, it's dumb - Chicago Tribune

    I was gonna quote parts but it's just too funny to be that selective
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    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    Nik Wallenda's Chicago tightrope walk isn't heroic, it's dumb - Chicago Tribune

    I was gonna quote parts but it's just too funny to be that selective
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
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    If everything goes as planned, a human being will spend part of Sunday evening walking a tightrope stretched between two Chicago high-rises.

    I, on the other hand, will spend part of Sunday evening stretched between two — or possibly three — low-rise sofa cushions, happily not watching that human being risk his life.

    There's a simple reason for that. I think what daredevil Nik Wallenda is doing — an event that will be nationally broadcast, much like his last death-defying walk across a gorge near the Grand Canyon — is remarkably stupid.

    If humans were meant to walk across a city on narrow wires hundreds of feet in the air, God wouldn't have invented taxis. (I assume our bodies would also be made of rubber, or possibly cotton.)

    What worries me most about this event isn't the fate of the walker but the possibility that people will attach the term "heroic" to Wallenda and, in the event something dreadful happens, describe his fall as "a tragedy."

    Let's be clear, I hope nothing bad happens, and I wish Wallenda nothing but good fortune. But if walking a tightrope some 600 feet in the air above the Chicago River is heroic, then so is sticking your face in a fan. And dying while doing something that would make any logical person think, "I better not do that, I might die," isn't a tragedy — it's just dying, and kind of dumb dying at that.

    We have a tendency to conflate actual acts of heroism — soldiers parachuting into a war zone or firefighters running into a burning building — with things that are bold but, in the end, purposeless.

    Same with tragedies. We hear about adventurous souls who die trying to climb Mount Everest and think, "Oh, that's so tragic."

    No, it's not. It's unfortunate. It's sad that those people are gone. But at the end of the day, they were the ones who decided to climb something not meant for climbing.

    Consider Austrian sky diver Felix Baumgartner, who in 2012 made a 24-mile leap from a capsule, breaking the sound barrier on his descent.

    That was a really dumb thing to do. I have to imagine that birds looked up at Baumgartner and said, "Hey, get a load of this idiot," and birds aren't the brightest of creatures.

    Had the plummeting Austrian met the ground at a higher speed than he planned, there would have been endless cries about the tragedy of his death. But when you jump from a vessel 24 miles above the Earth, dying is not tragic, it's the logical outcome of your irrational decision.

    Astronauts who explore space for the benefit of humanity are heroic, and when astronauts die, it's tragic. But no astronaut ever jumped from the space shuttle as it was leaving the atmosphere, probably because any self-respecting astronaut knows that's not a very smart thing to do.

    If I announce plans to wade into a pool of lava, I wouldn't expect anyone to find it tragic when all that's left of me are half a torso and a head. I would expect people to say, "Wow, that half-torso guy is a Grade-A nincompoop."

    Going back to Wallenda, who is 35 and should know better, his stunt actually consists of two equally stupid parts.

    The first will be the walk between the Marina City west tower and the Leo Burnett Building. That rates plenty high on the stupid-o-meter.

    But after that, according to a story by my colleague Stacy St. Clair, he will "ride an elevator down to the street and return to the west tower, where he plans to be blindfolded as he crosses to the east tower on a tightrope."

    Blindfolded? Now you're just being ridiculous, Wallenda. I'm not even going to use my stupid-o-meter to measure that. It would probably break.

    Wallenda said in the story that Mother Nature is "really the one thing that we can't control." But the primary thing he can control are his feet and, if those feet were mine, I would use them to run away from the tightrope as quickly as possible and find a place where I'm unlikely to fall, possibly the sidewalk, as long as it's not too close to the curb.

    Sadly, Wallenda doesn't think the way I and other death-averse people think. He comes from a long line of folks who disrespect the law of gravity, and he perseveres even though a number of the famed Flying Wallendas have perished.

    I sincerely hope Nik Wallenda isn't the next to go. But in the event that he is, let's be realistic about the path he chose and the nature of his death.

    The headlines shouldn't read: "Heroic daredevil dies in tightrope tragedy; city mourns."

    They should read: "Guy doing something that could logically lead to death dies; city not particularly surprised."
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    Being an extreme daredevil is okay. Having children is okay. Both at the same time - no, I don't believe those are morally compatible. Cake having/eating it, too. Choose kids, and the tightrope escapades must be at least toned down considerably or augmented with safety precautions one might have foregone in the past (protip: audiences will respect if not admire the decision). If that is not acceptable, wait to have children until it is.

    Even if you explain your choices to a child, they're not going to be able to understand or cope with the courted disaster in the same way certain adult spouses have the capacity to.
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