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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    One of the major flaws of the Harry Potter books, IMO, is that JK Rowling doesn't ever bother trying to make Slytherin not seem evil. There are a handful of non-evil Slytherins, but they're shown as an exception to the general rule.

    I figure the most basic traits that one would need to have, to be a Slytherin, would be Machiavellianism and a desire for power. Racism would be more of a cultural problem associated with the house, than a necessary Slytherin trait.
    Yeah, I think that was an oversight on her part. The main reason they seem evil is because we're seeing them from Harry's point of view, and Harry is completely biased. He hates Slytherin right from the beginning, and all because Draco was mean to him.

    As for the Slytherins who sided with Voldemort, I kind of feel like a lot of them did so just to be accepted. Slytherin was hated and ostracized by the other houses already, so what did they have to lose? That's the way I see it. And anyway, not all of them sided with him. So they're definitely not all bad.

    Besides, Snape was a Slytherin. And he was good, even if no one knew it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    One of the major flaws of the Harry Potter books, IMO, is that JK Rowling doesn't ever bother trying to make Slytherin not seem evil. There are a handful of non-evil Slytherins, but they're shown as an exception to the general rule.

    I figure the most basic traits that one would need to have, to be a Slytherin, would be Machiavellianism and a desire for power.
    Yes. Slytherins are ambitious, determined, resourceful, racist, and cunning. Self preservation and fraternity are also two leading motifs of their house, and the in group/out group mentality is strong. They're probably both cautious and distrustful when acting in their self-interest, or when dealing with someone outside of their own group.

    I'd sort myself in Slytherin. I have some Gryffindor in me too. I'm not ruthless, but just, and wouldn't crush people who stand in my way. Nor am I as outwardly elitist... But it's there.
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    I vacillate between Gryffindor and Ravenclaw.

    I have some Slytherin-ish capacities but they're abilities rather than preferences ... so I wouldn't really class myself as a Slytherin, I don't think.

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    I imagine I'm mostly Ravenclaw with a lot of Gryffindor inclinations. I think I'd end up like Harry Potter in the case where I'd beg the sorting hat to put me in Gryffindor over Ravenclaw (where Harry begged gryffindor over slytherin).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oaky View Post
    I imagine I'm mostly Ravenclaw with a lot of Gryffindor inclinations. I think I'd end up like Harry Potter in the case where I'd beg the sorting hat to put me in Gryffindor over Ravenclaw (where Harry begged gryffindor over slytherin).
    I think I'm Ravenclaw, with some traits of the other houses, also. I don't really want to be anything other than a Ravenclaw. I try not to use my skills for evil, and that's good enough for me, I think. I do think that I'm not ever really going to be seen as one of the good guys unless I let myself get taken out in some kind of pointless sacrifice, and I don't want that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcan View Post
    I think I'm Ravenclaw, with some traits of the other houses, also. I don't really want to be anything other than a Ravenclaw. I try not to use my skills for evil, and that's good enough for me, I think. I do think that I'm ever really going to be seen as one of the good guys unless I let myself get taken out in some kind of pointless sacrifice, and I don't want that.
    That's understandable. I think that's the general line of type of ravenclaw archetypes. Just into intellectual thought without much of the passion, humility, or power other houses tend to look for. Lots of enneagram 5s would probably end up in ravenclaw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oaky View Post
    That's understandable. I think that's the general line of type of ravenclaw archetypes. Just into intellectual thought without much of the passion, humility, or power other houses tend to look for. Lots of enneagram 5s would probably end up in ravenclaw.
    I have passions, but things get messy if I act on them too much.

    I also don't give a damn about humility.
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    I feel about as excited about this as I do about Divergent's five cookie-cutter factions. Yes, I'm probably easiest sorted into Ravenclaw as much as I'd be sorted into Erudite... but I also find them all confining. Why not start a new house or something? Or be houseless -- a house for the houseless who don't want to be in a box. I dunno. But I feel confined when I'm stuck in a house. I need room to move.

    The reality is that I'm smart and creative, I've become brave and am willing to take risks, I persevere and am loyal to the things and people I believe in. So right there are three houses. I tend not to be very actively ambitious, so maybe that makes me a non-Slytherin, but on the other hand I've very pragmatic, so...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcan View Post
    I have passions, but things get messy if I act on them too much.

    I also don't give a damn about humility.
    Makes me wonder how it manifests differently in different people. Passions in many forms. Whenever I think of passion I tend to think of people like marm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oaky View Post
    Makes me wonder how it manifests differently in different people. Passions in many forms. Whenever I think of passion I tend to think of people like marm.
    I get tenacious regarding the defense of a particular idea or viewpoint.
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