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    Somewhere in the middle is my favorite. Idk I don't think about men's bodies very much. If I love someone I love their body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arctic Hysteria View Post
    It's funny how I find little to no interest or infatuation with attractive people either on the screen or on around me. I acknowledge that they're attractive looking alright. But they are just faces and bodies.
    We're programmed over time to believe what is attractive and lots of us forget to find for ourselves the little things of a person that really keep us "hooked", and we consider imperfection as defects. Now I'm NOT saying being obese and lazy and using the "I'm not perfect" as an excuse is the way to attract a mate.

    Everybody can look at Scarlett Johansson and says that's an extremely attractive woman. But it takes a specific man to see a specific seemingly ordinary woman as his most beautiful woman, and vice versa for the ladies to the men.

    To be honest, a guy with perfect hair, six packs, brilliant face and charismatic attitude would make me question how much of him is really mine, if I am with a figure that's considered "desirable" to all women. I don't know, maybe it's just me - hating being like everyone else, liking the same thing as everyone else. Maybe it's because I've had 2 jobs in my life that dealing with "beautiful" people and celebrities is daily.

    When I'm with somebody, I seek the things about them that I find attractive. My boyfriend's brows that make his eyes so much deeper when he has an inquisitive frown on, the smell of his breathing from his nose, the inner of his arms where I can lay on, his engaging and caring eye contact during intimate moments, etc. Those things cannot be captured just by staring at a person.

    Attractiveness in a person is something that you have to be the open-minded explorer to discover for yourself. If the generic toned thighs, big boobs, tight butts, six packs, gorgeous hair, polished face, or the fetishes porn put into your head are what turn you on, then, a- you're brainwashed, and b- Geez, go get creative!
    I really don't think I'm brain washed for finding attractive people attractive. I used to sort of say this stuff as a teenager and repelled against celebrities and shit... and then I realized I was scared I would be shallow for admitting true things and I wanted to be unique and deep and all that other shit.

    But the truth is its perfectly acceptable to appreciate both great looking men... and average men I can actually get in my life. For the same and different reasons. And it isn't that shallow. If your boyfriend randomly decided to be a total jerk, would you magically think his arms were gross? Physical attraction doesn't have to match mental attraction precisely. There's lots of wiggle room there. You can have preferences and then learn traits you thought were useless deal breakers are actually okay in some people. It changes. And it isn't a boring uncreative person that looks at someone and appreciates how they look. I don't think that's at the heart of what makes people unique... and, ironically, it makes you look a little shallow to throw out blanket judgments on people like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuuei View Post
    I really don't think I'm brain washed for finding attractive people attractive. I used to sort of say this stuff as a teenager and repelled against celebrities and shit... and then I realized I was scared I would be shallow for admitting true things and I wanted to be unique and deep and all that other shit.

    But the truth is its perfectly acceptable to appreciate both great looking men... and average men I can actually get in my life. For the same and different reasons. And it isn't that shallow. If your boyfriend randomly decided to be a total jerk, would you magically think his arms were gross? Physical attraction doesn't have to match mental attraction precisely. There's lots of wiggle room there. You can have preferences and then learn traits you thought were useless deal breakers are actually okay in some people. It changes. And it isn't a boring uncreative person that looks at someone and appreciates how they look. I don't think that's at the heart of what makes people unique... and, ironically, it makes you look a little shallow to throw out blanket judgments on people like that.
    The thing is, what you find "attractive" in men might very different from what I do. For me, physical traits are not what I look at right away. I observe and scan people's behavior, and voice, and acknowledge their appearance later.

    If your boyfriend randomly decided to be a total jerk, would you magically think his arms were gross?
    Unfortunately, in my world, yes, a big yes (but maybe "gross" is not the kind of word I'd use to describe). I've been around and together with absolutely gorgeous looking people, and they were only gorgeous in my eyes until their ugly behaviors started to reveal. Gorgeous no more.

    Physical attraction doesn't have to match mental attraction precisely.
    For me personally, it does!

    I am not you. And for me, physical attractiveness does not mean a thing if their personalities and behaviors are against my values. Been there, done that, and at several points in life, I felt revolted being in the same room with the person I once thought "so (physically) attractive".

    I'd say I appreciate attractive people, and by "attractive" I mean something solid, unique, authentic, inspiring and requires a bit of time and effort to discover. I stopped having celebrity crushes by the time I turned 13. I don't look at any Hollywood star now and think "Damn I'll have your baby!" (Not that I can't find that cute when girl friends do)

    Yet again, like I said in previous post. It might be the INFP - a non-compromising "all or nothing" crusader - drives my core and my view, "if you do wrongs, you as a whole person has no values to me". It's my values that I will never give up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arctic Hysteria View Post
    The thing is, what you find "attractive" in men might very different from what I do. For me, physical traits are not what I look at right away. I observe and scan people's behavior, and voice, and acknowledge their appearance later.
    Sure, and that's great and all. But I don't think making comments about others being lame brainwashed uncreative people because what others are attracted to isn't the same as you is really necessary .. But I think what you're describing is really common and quite normal. Most women are not automatically attracted to guys the instant they see them--they notice the attractive physical qualities as they warm up to the guy. When a guy makes a funny face that amuses a girl, those bushier eyebrows become endearing instead of offputting, etc.

    Unfortunately, in my world, yes, a big yes (but maybe "gross" is not the kind of word I'd use to describe). I've been around and together with absolutely gorgeous looking people, and they were only gorgeous in my eyes until their ugly behaviors started to reveal. Gorgeous no more.
    You're literally saying, "His eyebrows are handsome, and his arms are great.." If he turned out to be a jerk, suddenly those features are unattractive? Instead of: He is unattractive, despite his physical features which I once liked? They don't change. The arm doesn't just magically become gross just because you didn't notice the arm is attached to an ass (hypothetically, I'm sure he's a nice guy irl). Pretty people can be ugly. And ugly people can be beautiful inside. And some can be both at the same time. It's okay to acknowledge that the two aren't always paired together or always separate. If your boyfriend was an ass, it's okay to say, "Yeah, he had great arms.. but not worth it."

    For me personally, it does!
    First off. you don't have to be me. I'd just appreciate it if you didn't say I was a shallow brainwashed person because I think Mark Wahlberg is a very attractive guy. Or that I can enjoy the way something looks even if it was created by someone less-than-perfect otherwise. Of course it's better when they match.. It isn't like I'm dating a body building asshole right now because fuck it I have to have pecs. But I hope you can see where it's a little irritating for you to waltz in, sprinkle your "personality is everything!" powder, and skip off with a dust cloud of, "and you're brainwashed and need some creativity in your life if you don't agree."

    Just because it's your way does not mean it is the best way. Say personality matters all you want--and I'll show you a dozen beautiful people with great personalities that are not loved and with someone because personality is NOT all that matters. You have to be attracted to the person you're with. I've met awesome guys--great guys--but there was no physical attraction to them. It happens. Everyone would be massive sluts if they were physically attracted to ONLY beautiful personalities. I see them and interact with them all day, everyday. Genuinely great people. That doesn't mean I want to kiss them, cuddle them, sex them, etc. There is a biological component to things, even if you don't see it. The fact that you've already admitted that a guy was "so attractive" once but revolting later--that shows that there are physiological components in play there. If personality was all that mattered, you wouldn't have jumped in with someone so fast without truly knowing them. But it happens. You *think* you know someone, and they're great.. except they aren't. Biology plays tricks on you, and you have to balance the two out--what biological receptors are good indicators of chemistry and attraction, which ones are tricksters that don't really care about the long-term. But no one is immune to it that isn't also asexual.
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