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    Default What makes magic believable?

    Open-mindedness, not being prepared and stupidity are pretty vague answers. If you could go into more detail about what makes a good magic trick believable, then that would be awesome.

    I performed a few tricks on my case manager and psychiatrist today and only two of the tricks worked. My case manager easily debunked this trick with the four aces, and my psychiatrist worked out my other trick partially with four aces (where the spectator is handed a 'shuffled' deck and cuts the deck into four places then takes 3 cards from top to bottom and 3 cards from top to the other decks over each deck) and they were constantly trying to work out what made the trick, the trick. So what is it exactly that makes magic believable? I should be posting this on a card/magic forum but I think it still relates to ones psych.

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    I think it is the illusion that all apparent explanations of how the trick did happen (or lack thereof) violate one's idea of how it could have happened. A problem of which all solutions fail to make sense while the actual one remains perceptibly unattainable.

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    If by 'believable' you mean that people actually think there is 'real magic' at work, then my answer requires an addendum: a gullible audience.

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    It's because we think we know how the physical world around us works...but then, you show us that it didn't work how we expected it to. So then, we're like..."well, either everything I know about the physical world is false...or else, magic!".

    idk...i never really believed in magic. when they said "magic trick"...I was always looking for the "trick", and not the magic. lol...

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    Oh, you're talking about illusions and tricks, not real magic.

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    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nights and Days View Post
    Oh, you're talking about illusions and tricks, not real magic.
    Yeah, or apparent magic. Some tricks just have a reason that's beyond the reach of one's rationale.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    I think it is the illusion that all apparent explanations of how the trick did happen (or lack thereof) violate one's idea of how it could have happened. A problem of which all solutions fail to make sense while the actual one remains perceptibly unattainable.
    If by 'believable' you mean that people actually think there is 'real magic' at work, then my answer requires an addendum: a gullible audience.
    I suppose these two quotes explains it pretty well. I'd still like to hear other opinions though.

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    The willing suspension of disbelief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    The willing suspension of disbelief.
    I disagree, kind of. We all know it's a trick, there is rarely any belief involved. Magic works because it defies our expectations of reality, it works when it defies our senses. Almost nobody believes.

    I imagine that a good magician's goal isn't making somebody believe, but being entertaining enough to make somebody be satisfied with the spectacle itself.

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