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    Quote Originally Posted by Zangetshumody View Post
    I got an email from a prosecutor from a non-western Country; I thought it was a joke or false threat. Turns out it was legit, and I was going to be tried in abstentia: I ended up going to the trial at my own expense (because I did not want to live with the dishonor) and got tried pretty much by a court that doesn't respect any form of Common Law; the only way out of getting sentenced was apologizing and admitting fault: something that I explained away as being necessary, because if one is to have one's name impugned by a foreign court who takes jurisdiction upon itself against one (because in their "law" you can be subject to the jurisdiction of the victims domicile, and the court found the crime was committed on their soil anyway); then obviously I must make a practical concession in how I conduct myself, not because I was morally wrong; but because I was ignorant of their peculiar (to me) system of law. These qualifications were rather offensive to them; but eventually we came to a mutual understanding that I did not consider myself under their law; because I did not believe as they did.

    After a few exchanges about whether they could accept an admission of fault that did not impugn one's moral character- we agreed to blame my ignorance of their ways (which I was pretty much coerced to say something good about; I did not purger myself, I simply didn't state the shadow of the my description of their social arrangement.)

    I feel bad about it; but it was not a proper court of record.

    South Africa has a good relationship with Pakistan, so I did not feel so insecure upon my departure. But I was not tried by a secular court, and their government (I mean their proper judiciary) had no influence over the proceedings (I had wanted to rely on them a few times during my proceedings, because that is the system I had researched before going).

    I can't remember all the details well, the court was not unlawfully convened, it was endorsed by their secular system; it was just a separate and independent institution that was still part of the judiciary.

    [I was very angry, because I had worked out based on their rights guaranteed in their law that I had the tools to get a fair trial, or at least shield myself from any miscarriage of justice, but you can't assert those rights in the type of proceeding I was in, and if you apply to the proper courts for protection of those rights, they will not protect those rights against the proceedings of the type of court I was in (even though as the law stands written: those rights were stated to be upheld by the highest & supreme judicial authority);- which would of been the basis of a follow up case I had wanted to prosecute to deeply shame their country for what I considered to be blatant institutional dishonesty- but I was advised by diplomats that it would not be good for cross-national relations between our countries. (basically I wanted to tarnish their reputation for possessing the rule of Law in order to reclaim my dignity: I wouldn't of felt so bad, it was just that all the expert lawyers I had questioned said the rule of law was pretty much a given in Pakistan (with regards to wheels of justice (I know a lot can be said about the axis of power)).)]

    [by the way: I don't mean substantive law, they were largely rights regarding evidence and procedure in the consideration of evidence; although that can be said to inform the right to a fair trial (but that's a common law way of thinking- I just want to make the point: I was not frustrated because I did not understand their law; but because they did not allow their law to administered as it was written on their codes and books: something I could of taken them to task for (although only in a civil capacity))].
    Wow... dear goodness.
    I'm so sorry you had to go through all that court systems like that can be quite merciless and unfair, from what I've heard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nights and Days View Post
    They don't have a name for what he is..

    Came here to post this.

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    He's a LinkOnDrugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilogen View Post
    What has been seen cannot be unseen...
    Only she who attempts the absurd can achieve the impossible... and then some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zangetshumody View Post
    I call him a Meta-type 2.

    But it seems people find it very difficult to understand my forms of faculty analysis, so I will provide a brief explanation using ordinary language:

    He uses his awareness of 'consequence' (in general), as the basis of his understanding (instead of as the basis for fear).

    And so he doesn't attach his understanding to pragmatic extrapolation of his speculative awareness; causing him to miss the real darkness present in his reality.

    If he would fear real consequences (i.e. let his fear be determined by his awareness of 'what will be'), he wouldn't impel others to create this energy (through his influence), in his exchanges. Perhaps this is the feeling of 'almost trolling' eluded to in this thread; the major consequence of this kind of energy exchange is that it has a tendency to dampen (or threatens) other people's reliance on their own determination of outside authority regarding their personal identity.

    [the dampening would be the natural result of the fear work he is invoking your spirit to muster when exchanging energy with him].

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    General comment (if your interested further in Meta-type):
    There are 17 Meta-types in my system, and each type will indirectly exhibit partial traits of all the lower types.. while all the stages above one's type will be glaringly omitted from engaged-functioning. so there are a lot of people who will in some way conform to my description of RaptorWizard;- which is perhaps why it is so easy to forgive RaptorWizard his foibles. But I think you can agree, this basic level of dysfunction (although so ingrained within our cultural tolerance), is quite concentrated in the presentation of his personality style. [just trying to point of evidence in support of my naming]
    Where can I find your personal system elaborated in detail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LION4!5 View Post
    Where can I find your personal system elaborated in detail?
    I started trying to explain it, but people didn't seem willing to engage in my elaborations, I don't think I'm able to explain basically enough from small building blocks...
    Escape powerful genjitsu by averting your gaze from the eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zangetshumody View Post
    I started trying to explain it, but people didn't seem willing to engage in my elaborations, I don't think I'm able to explain basically enough from small building blocks...
    Well, here is an audience of one.

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    I think he finds most people's interest frivolously worthless, and therefore, interacts in a meaningless manner.

    I don't know if I could say he is above most people I encounter, but his mind is definitely at some "universal end-game" of understanding, while most people prefer things like what bothers them, the politics of today, and so on.

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