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    Quote Originally Posted by zago View Post
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    I don't see a question here. Are you looking for feedback, suggestions, or even a dialog; or are you simply trying to tell us a story or explain your point of view?
    The latter. I thought it was entertaining and I felt like it also made a point. I didn't think about anything after that, like what kind of discussion would come about. I don't think I want suggestions or anything.
    Given this^, and how much you've had to repeat that sentiment in this thread, over and over again...
    Quote Originally Posted by zago View Post
    I know. Giving advice is easy. It confirms your worldview. It makes you feel important and knowledgeable. It reminds you that you are better than someone. Etc.
    ...I'm very much inclined to agree. The sanctimony kills me.

    "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink," sure. But, for all anyone knows, the horse might not even be thirsty.

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    Maybe we should fill the trough with good scotch.

    It definitely sounds more fun.
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    @garbage haha thanks for being like the only person who stopped to be like.... but there is no question here.... lol

    Edit: @Jaguar also! Can't forget, he seemed to get it all along.

    It does illustrate though how a gap in communication can lead to a whole hell of a lot of hullabaloo.

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    Why is everyone hating on Zago? Idk, just seems that haters gonna hate. Or maybe people cant stand being told the truth.

    Reminds of when I was a kid I used to know more about science than everyone I met and would always get called names when I pointed out stuff people didnt know. Why? Personally I think I was more likeable as a philosophy enthusiast than a science buff. Philosophy is very subjective, but science requires exactitude, which makes it alot more demanding. People hate whatever brings them reason, rationality and facts.

    Then again, @zago I suggest staying away from the dating sites(I suggest this to everyone). I found the same kind of stupidity on those sites as you did. Im not the least bit surprised. Dating sites nnever claimed to breed any higher intellect. Id stay away from them if I were you, buddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zago View Post
    If you tried to give me advice in this thread, you are totally missing the point. It was 95% humor, 5% a point about how I think people need to value knowledge a little more. In what universe does anyone seriously say "I only get boners for scorpios"? What serious thread literally ends with the word "END"? The whole thing is straight up humor... obviously. If you couldn't tell, it may be time to sit down and have a talk with yourself: do you take yourself too seriously? Have you lost your sense of humor? Questions like that.
    To be honest, I don't find the situation described in the OP funny. I find it the willful ignorance described very sad, especially given how commonplace it is. If it were just some character out of a book, and not an unfortunate part of our real life, I might find more humor in it. That's why, if you don't want advice, I can see commiseration and sharing of similar experiences as motivations more likely than humor. Plus, the OP does contain several questions:

    Honestly I don't even quite know what this means. Is she saying women shouldn't ever be corrected, and must always be considered correct by men even when they are egregiously wrong? Is she saying that taking the time to correct a woman is such an exercise in futility that only a very bored person would actually do it?
    Some of the "advice" looks like attempts to address these, and offer an explanation for what this woman really means.

    Quote Originally Posted by Typh0n View Post
    Then again, @zago I suggest staying away from the dating sites(I suggest this to everyone). I found the same kind of stupidity on those sites as you did. Im not the least bit surprised. Dating sites nnever claimed to breed any higher intellect. Id stay away from them if I were you, buddy.
    I have found this true of any situation whose express purpose is dating/socializing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    I have found this true of any situation whose express purpose is dating/socializing.
    So, by this am I to understand you look down on dating/socializing?

    Personally I think dating and socilializing are two very different things. Socilializing is what you do with your friends, no formalities whatsoever. Dating on the other hand, seems like a very fake process of "Lets get to know each other and pretend like we dont really have the intent of shagging until we do" which requires alot of formality(unlike socializing).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typh0n View Post
    So, by this am I to understand you look down on dating/socializing?

    Personally I think dating and socilializing are two very different things. Socilializing is what you do with your friends, no formalities whatsoever. Dating on the other hand, seems like a very fake process of "Lets get to know each other and pretend like we dont really have the intent of shagging until we do" which requires alot of formality(unlike socializing).
    I generally have poor experiences with situations whose primary purpose is dating or socializing, specifically group settings designed to get people to meet each other for either purpose. I have met all of my close friends and romantic partners at activities with some other primary purpose - work, school, church, hobby group - where any personal relationship that develops is coincidental, but based on a track record of semi-professional interaction.

    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    YMMV, of course. If it's a gamut of confrontational topics you want to run people through to weed them out, you just have to make sure you are applying the filter that works.
    The process is not as deliberate as you describe. I rarely force my choice of topic on others, and will instead disengage from discussions that I don't find worthwhile. When someone else gets on these topics, however, I run with it and feel extraordinarily lucky.

    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    Your statement doesn't ring true when you describe interacting with people as "too much time and effort", "eventually" and "won't go digging". I understand it, but it is still dismissive.
    I tend to take people as they are. I don't want them digging into my background, so I don't do that to them. If something interesting comes out, so be it. Otherwise, unless I'm stuck one-on-one with them somewhere, there are usually other people to meet and other things to do. You can call it dismissive; I call it allocating limited resources to best effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Typh0n View Post
    Why is everyone hating on Zago? Idk, just seems that haters gonna hate. Or maybe people cant stand being told the truth.

    Reminds of when I was a kid I used to know more about science than everyone I met and would always get called names when I pointed out stuff people didnt know. Why? Personally I think I was more likeable as a philosophy enthusiast than a science buff. Philosophy is very subjective, but science requires exactitude, which makes it alot more demanding. People hate whatever brings them reason, rationality and facts.

    Then again, @zago I suggest staying away from the dating sites(I suggest this to everyone). I found the same kind of stupidity on those sites as you did. Im not the least bit surprised. Dating sites nnever claimed to breed any higher intellect. Id stay away from them if I were you, buddy.
    I to this day am still uncomfortable with people casually talking about nerds, even when they aren't trying to be mean or insulting. I think it inherently insulting whatever the intention. The stuff that "nerds" find important is actually extremely valuable and helpful to people. It's not just goofy random shit. It's a little profane just to see smart people as quirky little nerds when they did things like cure diseases and build the LHC.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    To be honest, I don't find the situation described in the OP funny. I find it the willful ignorance described very sad, especially given how commonplace it is. If it were just some character out of a book, and not an unfortunate part of our real life, I might find more humor in it. That's why, if you don't want advice, I can see commiseration and sharing of similar experiences as motivations more likely than humor. Plus, the OP does contain several questions:

    Some of the "advice" looks like attempts to address these, and offer an explanation for what this woman really means.
    Honestly I don't think the situation is very funny either, which is why I am truly a little bitter and cynical, but I guess I still think it can be made fun of. Yes, I am truly baffled and left lonely in this sort of world... make no mistake, there was a certain point here, despite the predominantly humorous nature of the OP.

    As for the questions I asked in the OP, they were more just jokes because they are so ridiculous. I don't think this woman really "meant" anything. Ya know, in the same sense that a parrot doesn't mean whatever it says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    I generally have poor experiences with situations whose primary purpose is dating or socializing, specifically group settings designed to get people to meet each other for either purpose. I have met all of my close friends and romantic partners at activities with some other primary purpose - work, school, church, hobby group - where any personal relationship that develops is coincidental, but based on a track record of semi-professional interaction.
    Yeah, same with me. I dont find that situations created to have "know each other better" are really helpful in acheiving that purpose. All relations I have are either through family or through institions(scool/work/hobbies etc) where my purpose and presence was primarily not socializing, even if I did end up socializing with the some select people I met there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    I tend to take people as they are. I don't want them digging into my background, so I don't do that to them. If something interesting comes out, so be it. Otherwise, unless I'm stuck one-on-one with them somewhere, there are usually other people to meet and other things to do. You can call it dismissive; I call it allocating limited resources to best effect.
    Fair enough. We all do it to some degree. It's a bit far afield from the OP, which I still have in mind, so I think we are talking about slightly different contexts anyway.

    Not that different than picking and choosing forum threads to answer, hah hah.

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