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    Ugh, I know what it's like to fade from a cult. Maybe we were even in the same one. My unsolicited advice: While/if you're under her roof, do what you must to keep suspicion at bay, but def make quiet plans so that you can escape one day. Good luck.

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    Hey Gumdrop...what are you doing?




    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Qwan View Post
    Remember everyone, even if things are grim, they will eventually improve.
    ^^Just going to point out that the above statement goes against everything I've been telling you for some time now. Things do not get better. Do not expect anything in the external world to ever improve. You improve your internal relationship to the external world.

    Holding you in my heart... Love, Starry

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    Quote Originally Posted by violaine View Post
    Ugh, I know what it's like to fade from a cult. Maybe we were even in the same one. My unsolicited advice: While/if you're under her roof, do what you must to keep suspicion at bay, but def make quiet plans so that you can escape one day. Good luck.
    jehovah's witnesses?


    Also, my INTP 5w4 Sx/Sp friend is secretly with me for moral support with the fade.

    I will speak with the elder as my mother wishes yet harden my heart and ears agaist his hateful lies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    Hey Gumdrop...what are you doing?






    ^^Just going to point out that the above statement goes against everything I've been telling you for some time now. Things do not get better. Do not expect anything in the external world to ever improve. You improve your internal relationship to the external world.

    Holding you in my heart... Love, Starry
    I must escape the evils of the cult, which shall involve reinventing myself elsewhere on this planet. I wait for the opportunity, frustrated.

    What I have been doing is wrong and infinite possibilities loom over the horizon! It would be wrong to continue harming myself and others.

    I must take flight, Starry!
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    SCIENCE ENTHUSIAST


    I say this as a reminder to myself, but this goes for everyone:

    You can achieve anything you set your mind to, and you are limited only by how dedicated you are to succeed!

    -Magic Qwan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Qwan View Post
    I must escape the evils of the cult, which shall involve reinventing myself elsewhere on this planet. I wait for the opportunity, frustrated.

    What I have been doing is wrong and infinite possibilities loom over the horizon! It would be wrong to continue harming myself and others.

    I must take flight, Starry!


    Fly brave spirit... Fly!

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    "I must take flight" usually is the best initiating line to a fart. But in english its not twice as funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    "I must take flight" usually is the best initiating line to a fart. But in english its not twice as funny
    omg haha. Epic win. entropie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Qwan View Post
    I will speak with the elder as my mother wishes yet harden my heart and ears agaist his hateful lies.
    That's rough, man. Keep in mind that they will be looking to see if there's anything to disfellowship you for. If you don't want to go that route, be careful of what you say to them.

    I'm glad that you got some support from your friend, though! It's important to have something like that.

    The world is imperfect, but it's also amazing. You will find a better place than where you are now.
    "Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear."--Ambrose Redmoon

    . . . metamorphosing . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    Things do not get better. Do not expect anything in the external world to ever improve. You improve your internal relationship to the external world.
    I agree with what you're saying, that the world has a lot of shitty elements to it and it hurts to look at it and that will never improve. But to be fair, there are a lot of things that look better when you're not in a cult anymore.
    "Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear."--Ambrose Redmoon

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    Quote Originally Posted by SubtleFighter View Post
    I agree with what you're saying, that the world has a lot of shitty elements to it and it hurts to look at it and that will never improve.
    You may agree with what you wrote...^^but that's not my message.


    But to be fair, there are a lot of things that look better when you're not in a cult anymore.
    I imagine in many cases...this is a fair assessment...so...thanks.

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