@Redbone: Ivy and Cafe, actually, or even a mix of Gromit and RedHerring, if you can imagine that.
Edit: Wow, Doug, we must have been posting at the same moment, and having the same thoughts regarding RH. At first glance, you seem a bit like Tinker, but I haven't read enough of your posts to get a very definite impression.
Hope is the denial of reality. It is the carrot dangled before the draft horse to keep him plodding along in a vain attempt to reach it. We should remove the carrot and walk forward with our eyes open. -- Raistlin Majere