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    Why do American men wear button down shirts, that is, buttoned down at the collar?

    I notice this because no one here wears button down shirts.

    Do American men wear button down shirts to be neat and tidy? Or because they are uptight? Or because they want to button down their emotions? Or is it a class thing? Do upper class American men wear button down collars or just middle class men?

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    You are talking about Oxford style shirts. As much as you're associating it with uptightness, it's actually a more laid back style than a non buttoned collar. Which is why it may be more popular among the middle classes, it's less hoity-toity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qlip View Post
    You are talking about Oxford style shirts. As much as you're associating it with uptightness, it's actually a more laid back style than a non buttoned collar. Which is why it may be more popular among the middle classes, it's less hoity-toity.
    Yes, I thought it was middle class rather than upper class.

    And how interesting to discover button down collars are a form of reverse snobbery in that they are less hoity-toity than the collars of the upper class.

    I almost feel button down collars are revolutionary.

    I think we feel button down collars are not worth the effort, as we have to thread the tie through the buttoned collar or undo and redo the buttons.

    Don't you think Americans are funny?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Yes, I thought it was middle class rather than upper class.

    And how interesting to discover button down collars are a form of reverse snobbery in that they are less hoity-toity than the collars of the upper class.

    I almost feel button down collars are revolutionary.

    I think we feel button down collars are not worth the effort, as we have to thread the tie through the buttoned collar or undo and redo the buttons.

    Don't you think Americans are funny?
    I know everyone is funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Why do American men wear button down shirts, that is, buttoned down at the collar?

    I notice this because no one here wears button down shirts.

    Do American men wear button down shirts to be neat and tidy? Or because they are uptight? Or because they want to button down their emotions? Or is it a class thing? Do upper class American men wear button down collars or just middle class men?
    My SO refuses to wear them. I have learned from this how ubiquitous they are: it is hard to find dress shirts without button-down collars.
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    "Thread the tie through..."?

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    I wear anti-professional shirts almost always; that is, shirts without those dang chaining buttons!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Yes, I thought it was middle class rather than upper class.

    And how interesting to discover button down collars are a form of reverse snobbery in that they are less hoity-toity than the collars of the upper class.

    I almost feel button down collars are revolutionary.

    I think we feel button down collars are not worth the effort, as we have to thread the tie through the buttoned collar or undo and redo the buttons.

    Don't you think Americans are funny?
    Buttoning a collar down is actually easier than starching/ironing/steaming a collar so it looks right and stays right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    My SO refuses to wear them. I have learned from this how ubiquitous they are: it is hard to find dress shirts without button-down collars.
    I also boycott button down collars. It's a slippery slope. You'll then progress to short sleeved button down shirts, and then pleated khakis and rockports, then you'll be trapped in IT/Middle Management heck. Nightmare fuel.

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