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    Nice list, @kyuuei! I'm going to use those tactics!

    Good luck with the improvements, @Bamboo. I have a hard time with structure too. To be honest I mostly seek it out in my environment, since I am quite bad at enforcing it myself.

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    skylights, that's been my strategy too! It works usually, but sometimes makes me start to feel restricted or inadequate when I fall short of following the structure instated by someone else. Making a list while drinking my morning coffee can work too. Then I use music, sunshine, people, or other things to keep me going. Not always successful though. I wasted much of my day today just because it's hard for me to get motivated with no real schedule and when I'm alone. Enter ENFP optimism to give me brand new hope for a better tomorrow

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    Well I woke up this morning, did the food whiteboard radio thing. Couldn't find news channel so instead I got to get teary eyed to "I Drive Your Truck"

    But after that I got my list up and started working...

    and working

    and then i took a little break

    and then I just kept working.

    And now I'm going to stop myself.

    Ok...so...that was like 11.5 hours of doing things.

    Alright, so I need some tweaks to remember to eat and take breaks and stop at a normal hour. But I got really involved in this rolling toolbox cart folding table thing I made. And I got a lot of other stuff done.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bamboo

    OK and Inari I'll :get back to you in the AM (after food and whiteboard and radio, apparently) because I'm passing out and that's a long post.
    I lied. I had you on the list, but I figured night would be a better time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Urarienev View Post
    Ok, so I'm probably more of an expert in long term goals/planning. Short term, like doin the laundry and chores n shit, not my thing. I would prefer someone else to do that stuff. I don't have anyone to ask to do those things though lol, so I still somehow manage to get them done, but they plague me.

    The first thing you want to do is find what people call your "definite major purpose". This is the goal that is like the end all of goals. So in theory, once you have decided that goal, all other goals are made easy.

    So you start off listing all the goals ever that you want to achieve.

    I'll use me as an example: Eat right, exercise regularly, get my sleep to be regular, stop getting sick, make my life stress free, find a mate, etc.
    uh...major purpose?

    "Don't die (unless you got a good reason)."

    "Acknowledge truth."

    "Misc."

    "Enjoy things."

    But the smaller things I can list off easier, I suppose.

    To me one of the easiest ways to eliminate or solve any of these problems would be to start a routine.

    Therefore building routines would my major definite purpose. This "purpose" can change all the time, or it may stay the same for a very long time.
    Oh...

    I see what you're doing here.

    You have to keep re-evaluting where in life you've been, where you are now, and where you want to go. I don't neccesarily veiw it as my "life purpose" though. But this major purpose should and most likely will affect all areas of your life: Relationships, work, home life, fun, health, etc.
    Ok. That makes more sense.

    Once you figure this out the rest should be easy. Now you can make a list of everything that you can do today, right now, that can make you go in the direction of that purpose. You want to make a list of at least20 things. (That's important) If you can't get to 20 the first try, stop and come back later. But the awesome part about this step is that the answers will start coming, and that's where you're gonna start feeling more motivated, fulfilled, and happier, because you will start to get answers that you wouldn't normally think of. And those answers are usually the "aha moment" answers.

    I am just going from my experience after reading a book called "Goals"
    20 things eh? Hmm. OK, I'll try this later on.

    But now I got a lot of people to answer. And other threads too. Dammit. The more I talk, the more I have to talk.
    Don't know how much it'll bend til it breaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuuei View Post
    That one really does work great. Though, music I find works better than a timer. I do it impromptu all the time too--to make myself feel super accomplished. "Oh, crap, the dryer still has 9 minutes to go... Can I clean the fridge out in 9 minutes from all those left overs from gods-know-when?" Then I feel like a rock star completing TWO things.. Yeah, somehow I count that as two.
    I do that multi-tasking all the time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wind-Up Rex View Post
    Well...what are your goals?
    ...?

    - Organize what I have
    - Get rid of stuff I don't need
    - fix old projects for sale or just trash
    - get work done around cabin ("done" is a relative term)
    - enjoy a social life that goes beyond just going out at night
    - join clubs activities etc
    - get some other work in this city

    BUT

    - probably going to move away from here to a new city. it'll probably be a while though.

    In any case I still would like some semblance of a (better) social group to go with my working.

    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    Nice list, @kyuuei! I'm going to use those tactics!

    Good luck with the improvements, @Bamboo. I have a hard time with structure too. To be honest I mostly seek it out in my environment, since I am quite bad at enforcing it myself.
    Well I'm building my environment, a bit, at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by nicolita View Post
    skylights, that's been my strategy too! It works usually, but sometimes makes me start to feel restricted or inadequate when I fall short of following the structure instated by someone else. Making a list while drinking my morning coffee can work too. Then I use music, sunshine, people, or other things to keep me going. Not always successful though. I wasted much of my day today just because it's hard for me to get motivated with no real schedule and when I'm alone. Enter ENFP optimism to give me brand new hope for a better tomorrow
    Sometimes I feel like I waste my day, but today at least I basically worked the whole time with not a whole lot of apparent taper off in efficiency. So...not really great structure wise but pretty good work wise.
    Don't know how much it'll bend til it breaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamboo View Post
    Well I woke up this morning, did the food whiteboard radio thing. Couldn't find news channel so instead I got to get teary eyed to "I Drive Your Truck"

    But after that I got my list up and started working...

    and working

    and then i took a little break

    and then I just kept working.

    And now I'm going to stop myself.

    Ok...so...that was like 11.5 hours of doing things.

    Alright, so I need some tweaks to remember to eat and take breaks and stop at a normal hour. But I got really involved in this rolling toolbox cart folding table thing I made. And I got a lot of other stuff done.



    I lied. I had you on the list, but I figured night would be a better time.



    uh...major purpose?

    "Don't die (unless you got a good reason)."

    "Acknowledge truth."

    "Misc."

    "Enjoy things."

    But the smaller things I can list off easier, I suppose.



    Oh...

    I see what you're doing here.



    Ok. That makes more sense.



    20 things eh? Hmm. OK, I'll try this later on.

    But now I got a lot of people to answer. And other threads too. Dammit. The more I talk, the more I have to talk.
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    Well, so far I've done the daily whiteboard thing and started keeping a log again, so that's a little structure, at least.
    Don't know how much it'll bend til it breaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamboo View Post
    ...?

    - Organize what I have
    - Get rid of stuff I don't need
    - fix old projects for sale or just trash
    - get work done around cabin ("done" is a relative term)
    - enjoy a social life that goes beyond just going out at night
    - join clubs activities etc
    - get some other work in this city

    BUT

    - probably going to move away from here to a new city. it'll probably be a while though.

    In any case I still would like some semblance of a (better) social group to go with my working.
    Ok. Most of those things you described are either a) tasks or b) projects. Goals are a bit broader. They answer things like "What do I want to do with my life?" "Where do I see myself in the next 5 years? 10 years?" "What sort of things are valuable to me, and necessary to leading a good life?"

    Would you mind taking another stab at it with that clarification?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind-Up Rex View Post
    Ok. Most of those things you described are either a) tasks or b) projects. Goals are a bit broader. They answer things like "What do I want to do with my life?" "Where do I see myself in the next 5 years? 10 years?" "What sort of things are valuable to me, and necessary to leading a good life?"

    Would you mind taking another stab at it with that clarification?
    Oh right, this.

    Goals?

    What do I want to do with my life? 5 years? 10 years?

    I honestly don't have any idea how to answer that question. I don't know what I'm doing in 2 weeks much less 2 years.

    I guess make really high quality objects, because I tend to dislike junk. But does the world really need more objects? Maybe organize said objects.

    Or solve problems.

    Probably involving emphasis on doing.

    Possible outcomes:

    - crafter/builder
    - cop/ems
    - industrial design
    - ?

    I really just have general principles and react to life as it occurs at this point.


    Valuable and necessary things:

    - acknowledge what's true
    - rid self of denial
    - be effective
    - experience for the sake of understanding
    - learn skill and constantly refine
    - help yourself
    - help others
    - be sensitive to detail/avoid illusions of simplicity to cloud perceptions
    - reserve judgment where you lack ability to judge
    - gratitude as the cornerstone of ability
    - prepare for painful times in good times
    - stand up for beliefs
    Don't know how much it'll bend til it breaks.

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    @Bamboo....do u want to have 5 year goal? If not i wouldn't push urself towards that. Is it maybe ur overall goal to take life as it comes?
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