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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant View Post
    Where we rise up and do something about it.
    Getting organized means breaking free.

    The first wave is sweeping across Europe right now.
    People are becoming stirred in their sleep.
    Unfortunately, europeans are voting these parties mostly as a reaction against the EU (basically, against its policies in the last 3-4 years), so I think you are completely missing the point by talking about muslims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Unfortunately, europeans are voting these parties mostly as a reaction against the EU (basically, against its policies in the last 3-4 years), so I think you are completely missing the point by talking about muslims.
    You're in Northern Italy, right? Veneto, if I remember correctly.
    Things are a bit different in northern and western Europe.
    In Italy, what you say might be true. Italy is not my specialty.
    Not so up here, down in Germany, Netherlands, the UK, France etc.
    In Sweden, politics doesn't even pretend to be left or right anymore.
    It is all about pro-immigration/genocide/cultural destruction or anti-immigration/pro-white.
    Mainstream media is of course supporting the former, but alternative media is drawing hundreds of thousands of readers now, in a country of 7 million ethnic Swedes/Europeans and 2 million non-europeans.

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    Somewhere in Scandinavia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant View Post
    I beg to differ. "Hate speech" is very liberally interpreted and punished severely.
    National socialism, expressions thereof and the NSDAP is forbidden along with its symbology.
    The NPD are national democrats, and the government is considering a ban on that as well.
    "Denying the holocaust" or even investigating into it will land a person in jail.
    The problem the NPD faces is the constitution. Article 9 (2) compels the government to act if what is certainly true for individual party members holds true for the party at large, namely that they are trying to abolish certain aspects of or the entire constitution. You can find that however you like, but it is not new.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant View Post
    His doctor's thesis, which did land him in jail, did not say a word about the holocaust.
    He went to jail because he wrote and publicized a report claiming that the KZ gas chambers were not used to kill people. He did that to help defend in court General Otto Ernst Remer, a true nazi, who was at the time again charged with a hate crime. Rudolf's claims have since been refuted, of course.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant View Post
    I mean, what the hell? Are people blind?
    Something is seriously wrong.
    I find it a bit silly as well, but it really is a law that you only need to break if you have ulterior motives, so it does not bother me much. There are much more frustrating laws protecting the power of the churches.

    I am sure we will get rid of both in due time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant View Post
    You're in Northern Italy, right? Veneto, if I remember correctly.
    Things are a bit different in northern and western Europe.
    In Italy, what you say might be true. Italy is not my specialty.
    Not so up here, down in Germany, Netherlands, the UK, France etc.
    In Sweden, politics doesn't even pretend to be left or right anymore.
    It is all about pro-immigration/genocide/cultural destruction or anti-immigration/pro-white.
    Mainstream media is of course supporting the former, but alternative media is drawing hundreds of thousands of readers now, in a country of 7 million ethnic Swedes/Europeans and 2 million non-europeans.
    Mmm yes I am originally from Veneto, but I know live in Germany, sometimes in Bayern and sometimes in NRW. Which would be the German parties you are referring to?
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    Refuted... Hardly. It sure is portrayed as such, here you have Mr. Rudolf's reply to this:

    http://www.vho.org/GB/c/GR/CharacterAssassins.html

    However.
    What I am talking about is that banning an ideology that is obviously good for us is impossible.
    Especially in times of crisis such as this, when we need it.
    When we are under de facto attack by hostile foreign interests.
    To quote Victor Hugo: "Mightier than the tread of marching armies is the power of an idea whose time has come".
    Whether or not the chemistry is correct (which it probably still is)...
    It is not about that at all. It is about Europe and the survival of our cultures, our civilization and our race.

    Legislating against it won't help.
    It can only lead to violent resistance, when all other avenues of approach has been made impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Mmm yes I am originally from Veneto, but I know live in Germany, sometimes in Bayern and sometimes in NRW. Which would be the German parties you are referring to?
    Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschlands. Google around a bit. The government is trying to have them banned.
    Also take a look at the "immortals".

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0vCJJk2gbA

    The latter is done anonymously by people who have just had enough.
    No central organization, just people gathering and showing that they exist within the population.
    They can be your coworker, boss, landlord, classmate, brother.
    In Germany, people are afraid to speak loudly about these things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant View Post
    Refuted... Hardly. It sure is portrayed as such, here you have Mr. Rudolf's reply to this:

    http://www.vho.org/GB/c/GR/CharacterAssassins.html
    To be honest, I am as interested in his opinion as in other people's attempts to prove that humans lived alongside dinosaurs. His 'findings' are inconsequential either way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant View Post
    What I am talking about is that banning an ideology that is obviously good for us is impossible.
    Especially in times of crisis such as this, when we need it.
    When we are under de facto attack by hostile foreign interests.
    To quote Victor Hugo: "Mightier than the tread of marching armies is the power of an idea whose time has come".
    Whether or not the chemistry is correct (which it probably still is)...
    It is not about that at all. It is about Europe and the survival of our cultures, our civilization and our race.

    Legislating against it won't help.
    It can only lead to violent resistance, when all other avenues of approach has been made impossible.
    Good to see you really have not changed. Entertainment is ensured. Or has your calling perhaps gotten even stronger?

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    Well, of course you aren't interested.

    Yes, my calling has gotten much stronger and has solidified.
    Why? Because I am right, and I can prove it.

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    You might like Heribert Illig.

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