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    Quote Originally Posted by Varangian View Post
    Karl Marx was not german either culturally nor ethnically. It'd be like saying i'd be japanese if I went to japan and stayed there. Karl Marx was jewish.

    Communism has been largely misinterpreted, too. It is truly not a constructive ideology.
    It is aimed at the destruction of cultural and national identity, in order to create a new world order.
    It is completely foreign, and against everything European in particular.
    If you look at standard right-left politics, you'll see that at one hand you have capitalism and at the other hand you have STATE capitalism (communism/socialism/marxism).
    Examine it, and you will find the very same people at the top. Call it Illuminati or whatever you want. They're there.
    The german people is not responsible, even if their propagandists want to stir people against each other all the time to create chaos. Divide and conquer.
    Truth is, in these times, we Europeans need to band together like never before. That is what they are trying to prevent by spreading these sentiments.

    Personally, I love Germany. I also love France. Things are really going down the drain, but we'll have a happier world for it in the end.
    Muhahahhahahahahahahahaw!!!

    Wait, this isnt some kind of elaborate troll attempt after all?

    Its just that the ideas are so, so, so obviously flawed and messed up, even a child could see and all, cant be for real now....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Muhahahhahahahahahahahaw!!!

    Wait, this isnt some kind of elaborate troll attempt after all?

    Its just that the ideas are so, so, so obviously flawed and messed up, even a child could see and all, cant be for real now....
    If I laugh longer and harder than you did, do I win the argument?

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    I'd like to eliminate Rand-Land, as soon as it comes into existence, or any close approximation of it.

    Besides that any fascist-racist utopias, Hitler's Germany, Kardich's Serbia, the Hutu's Rwanda, you know, whatever.

    Socialist republic's gonna get ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    I'd like to eliminate Rand-Land, as soon as it comes into existence, or any close approximation of it.

    Besides that any fascist-racist utopias, Hitler's Germany, Kardich's Serbia, the Hutu's Rwanda, you know, whatever.

    Socialist republic's gonna get ya.
    What, like they "got" over a hundred million people in the last century?
    Real nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varangian View Post
    If I laugh longer and harder than you did, do I win the argument?
    What argument?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varangian View Post
    What, like they "got" over a hundred million people in the last century?
    Real nice.
    Some of those people were nazis and other genocidal criminals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varangian View Post
    Karl Marx was not german either culturally nor ethnically. It'd be like saying i'd be japanese if I went to japan and stayed there. Karl Marx was jewish.
    Are you aware that Karl Marx's ancestors were actually living in Trier (Augusta Treverorum) centuries before most of the Germans arrived and invaded the area (only in 413 AD)? -Jews were deported there during Roman times-
    And that Ashkenazic Jews actually spoke Hoch Deutsch, were at the basis of modern German intellectual identity?

    Have you read the Lorelei?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varangian View Post
    2: What's bad is that we won't exist anymore. Africa for the africans, asia for the asians, Europe for everyone. I know you are German, and you have been taught to hate yourself. Think on that.
    I recently had a good analogy on that: when a chinese mayor of a city with 120 million inhabitants welcomed the german foreign minister of a country of 80 million. They said: "Chinese mayor welcomes the foreign minister of a smaller country." That was quite funny and shows the physical importance Europe or my country really plays on this world. It's quite slim.

    4: Well, it is true though. I even used to be a communist, back when I thought like you do. It was reading Marx that scared me into looking for alternatives to that mad lunacy.
    I actually never read Marx nor am I intrested in philosophy or politics that much. Most of the times I was reading engineering books and never really had the time to make my mind around other stuff, so I am not the best intercolutor on that one. Regarding politics I barely know whom to vote. Our politics is old and boring, I am glad when they are all dead. I like the pirates party, they have no idea what they are doing but are all computer nerds. Sadly tho when you take a closer look at them, its the same power mongers like other politicians.

    5: You should be proud to be German. I have been there a lot, and even I see the glory and feel the wings of time. Hating yourself and your peoples' achievements gains you nothing. At the end of the day, you are German, European and white. That's your group. Be proud, because no other group has done so much for humanity. Period. That is not hate, it is fact.
    I never said I hate myself, I am pretty emotionless about being German. I could be Marsian in my opinion wouldnt change a thing for me. The only thing I like would be african due to the big schlongs they are said to have.

    What's true tho is that the activities of my country regarding rescuing Europe have been hesistant. The reason for that is, we'd do a lot of things way differently. In Germany most people still share the dream that you can be with honest work be a valuable member of society. Reliability, trust and efficiency are the basis for all contracts here. If you then see what countries like Zyprus, Greece or Spain have done economically in the past, most doom happening to them was only logical. The only solution now would be to impose our system on them but that would mean imposing our culture on them and most of those people fear that. And we wont do it.

    Additionally we know that the leaders of my country and I dont mean the political ones but the industry, are just waiting for chances of exploitation. So now matter how a more involved role in Europe would look like, it would play out bad for everyone. They have been exploiting Europe for the past 50 centuries and they will go on doing that. For that to change human nature needs to fundamentally change, but I dont see a chance for that in the next few days.

    6: The Star Trek universe won't happen unless the Earth is populated by Europeans alone, or asians and Europeans living in segregated harmony (which I prefer). If it wasn't for europeans, there would be no technology or civilization. We brought it to south america (google "cloud people peru"), we brought it to China thousands of years ago, we created the civilizations in the middle-east and North Africa and of course our native Europe.
    That is the reason that all of these cultures has pyramids, for instance.
    Without us, there would be nothing, and without us there will be no progress. All those who scream racist and want us to hate ourselves... I could not care less.
    I do not hate anyone, but I love my own kind. Anyone who says I can't is just a hypocrite.
    I love all the different cultures, foods and peoples. But everyone has the right to their own lands and lives, and none must be destroyed.
    The japanese have understood this very well. They don't mind tourists, but they do not want Gaijin to move there and mix.
    They do their thing, and I admire that. I refuse to sacrifice my own people on the altar of Multiculturalism. We must live!
    Its my opinion aswell that Europes and Americas biggest chances in the future will be to become preceding nations of technology. Yet the chinese learn fast, maybe one day they will be better than us. But I think its fundamentally not important who is best, but its important for all to live in a balanced coexistance. Regarding Earths growing population I think the future in the year 2500 will be people of the new formed alliance "United Nations of America" between Europe and America that lay in bed all day and life in a virtual reality cause there's no space left to live in the real world.

    Either that or someone builds the warp drive and I am working on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie
    What's true tho is that the actiities of my country regarding rescuing Europe have been hesistant. The reason for that is, we'd do a lot of things way differently. In Germany most people still share the dream that you can be with honest work be a valuable member of society. Reliability, trust and efficiency are the basis for all contracts here. If you then see what countries like Zyprus, Greece or Spain
    What about Spain? They don't seem to have done anything particularly wrong, except fueling a property boom...(which was economically nonsensical, but I wouldn't say dishonest or malintentioned).
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    What about Spain? They don't seem to have done anything particularly wrong, except fueling a property boom...(which was economically nonsensical, but I wouldn't say dishonest or malintentioned).
    No thats true: financial irresponsibility would prolly only apply to Greece, Zyprus and maybe Ireland. As I said I am really no expert on economics and the Eurocrisis. I try to follow it on the news but most things I do not understand.
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