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Thread: Should London be an independent state?

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    F CK all I need is U Array ilikeitlikethat's Avatar
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    Default Should London be an independent state?

    This is something else.

    And this is what I found on Facebook:

    We want London to be an independent state within the commonwealth. We are tired of giving all of our money to peoples living outside the M25.

    20% of Britains GDP is made in London, yet we only have just have over 10% of the population. Where is the fairness in that.

    A few of the policies in London would be.

    · No tax on petrol (gasoline)
    · No tax or duty on alcohol, tobacco and other legal drugs.
    · Free viagra for those who need it without seeing a professional quack.
    · No smoking ban
    · No congestion charge
    . 24 hour gyms
    So I ask you, people of the UK and of the World.
    Should London should be an independent state?
    Also from Facebook:
    London's economy subsidises the rest of the UK by about £18 Billion per year. Worse, the economy of London, and all the hard work we do, also subsidises lazy scrounging French farmers through the Common Agricultural Policy. Our economy in London is growing at 3.8% per annum, far outstripping the rest of the UK, and funding the health services of fat, heavy drinking smokers in Wales, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Upnorth.

    Not only that, as well as paying more income and corporate tax than the rest of the UK, because our incomes are higher, we're also paying more council tax, because hardly any of our tax is spent on local services and local councils. Instead, our taxes are used to subsidise failing economies in the rest of the UK and around Europe. London Councils and Local Authorities lose out because they're viewed as "rich", and therefore have to tax their already over-taxed populous to deliver public services.

    Such is the underinvestment in London that Great Ormond Street Hospital, the flagship sick children's hospital in the UK, has recently had to launch an advertising campaign for donations, because it is facing millions of pounds of underfunding. This along with the underfunding of our schools, transport system and police forces - as well as the disgraceful and broken border controls of the UK which disproportionally affect London - is a totally unacceptable situation for one of the world's economic and social centres. We could have the best city in the world, a shining light of civilisation, a beacon for other nations - if it weren't for the fact that we have to donate tens of billions a year to people who cannot or will not do productive work, and produce things people actually want to buy.

    Imagine what we could do with an extra £18 Billion a year, and without having billions extra stolen from us by lazy foreign farmers, who can't be bothered to make an honest living? £18B would fund 6 new crossrail projects a year. £18B would fund over 150 more Great Ormond Street hospitals. £18B would fund brand new schools across London - with the best teachers, the most modern teaching facilities, the newest and most up to date books. £18B would fund a new, tougher, quicker immigration system - to make sure that the people we let in are genuinely needed in our economy - and we turn around those that aren't. £18B a year would mean an end to our council housing crisis - and would allow us to work with developers to build tens of thousands of new affordable homes for people with low incomes.

    That's why we need to become independent from the UK. London and the Home Counties have suffered too long under rulers that take and take and take, and never give anything back. We are the engine room of the UK economy, but we have the money and taxes we produce stolen from us and given to others elsewhere. Then those people, in Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Cornwall have the sheer cheek to turn around and ask for independence from us, when we make their pitiful lives possible through our hard work!!

    So before they assert their independence, we should assert ours, and see how they like it. London has the best workers in the world from within the M25 and outside in the Home Counties. London and the Home Counties boast 4 out of the top 5 universities in the UK. London has 5 major international airports. We in London and the Home Counties have all we need to set up our own successful state.

    When we do this, we will live in one of the richest and most successful countries in the world. It will have education and health systems to rival the best in Europe. We'll be able to take control of our borders, and make sure those that come in aren't bomb-makers, and are genuinely useful to the economy.

    Furthermore, we'll be able to modernise our transport system without raising prices to unacceptable levels. Housing will be cheaper for those at the lower end of the market. Moreover, we'll be able to pay less taxes for this, rather than having to pay more to bail out Africa. We'll have a high standard of living, but with a low tax economy.

    But that's not all. We'll also be able to renegotiate our treaties with Europe. Of course, we're all for free trade with our neighbours, and for celebrating commerce and economic activity. That's what the EU was meant to be about - it was meant to be a free trade zone of economic and social cooperation. What it's turned into is an excuse to leak money to French farmers, and Spanish fishermen. If we became independent, we could keep the free trade, but ditch the subsidies to lazy unproductive industries. We could benefit from the economic good points of Europe like the Scandinavian Countries and Switzerland do, without getting dragged down by its outdated "socialistic" bad points.

    Therefore I urge you to join in our campaign for independence for London and the Home Counties - and fight to start enjoying the benefits and fruits of our labour. - Don't blame me if the statements contradict each other.

    Think of all the money we would save, before argueing me.
    What do you think?

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    That's not how reality works.
    For all that we have done, as a civilization, as individuals, the universe is not stable, and nor is any single thing within it. Stars consume themselves, the universe itself rushes apart, and we ourselves are composed of matter in constant flux. Colonies of cells in temporary alliance, replicating and decaying and housed within, an incandescent cloud of electrical impulses. This is reality, this is self knowledge, and the perception of it will, of course, make you dizzy.

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