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    Quote Originally Posted by nanook View Post
    don't fucking save the old world, it's insane. and every Ni user knows this.
    I think it was about saving the good parts of what was left of the old world. Not saving the old world in its entirety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    Sure, many people named Yeshua existed. But to be Jesus, the idea of whom so many people adore, one would have to have other qualities as well: and nobody has ever had those.
    Even if he didn't have any powers at all, but still said the things he said, and helped people in the ways he could, and lead his life as justly as he is reported to have done, I would still believe in his divinity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    I think it was about saving the good parts of what was left of the old world. Not saving the old world in its entirety.
    1) understand the nature of our world
    2) it follows the ability to differentiate core qualities of every stage of organisation from surface structures
    3) integrate all core qualities with each other, let go of all surface structures as you replace them with the surface structures of the latest stage.

    yup, im using jargon, sorry if it makes no sense

    did this winston guy understand what's true core? maybe he did.

    all of our surface structures are thoroughly insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanook View Post
    don't fucking save the old world, it's insane. and every Ni user knows this.

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    it's lovely how that guy looks so similar to your avatar, never noticed that before

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    They do kind of look alike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    Even if he didn't have any powers at all, but still said the things he said, and helped people in the ways he could, and lead his life as justly as he is reported to have done, I would still believe in his divinity.
    You mean, if there was a guy who spoke and helped and lived similar to how the Biblical character called Jesus does, you would think him a god? By that logic, is William Blake a god to you, too, or Gandhi, or Mother Teresa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    You mean, if there was a guy who spoke and helped and lived similar to what the Biblical character called Jesus does, you would think him a god? By that logic, is William Blake a god to you, too, or Gandhi, or Mother Teresa?
    The all kind of are in their own way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    You mean, if there was a guy who spoke and helped and lived similar to what the Biblical character called Jesus does, you would think him a god? By that logic, is William Blake a god to you, too, or Gandhi, or Mother Teresa?
    Hmm, although his choice of words using divinity was probably misplaced, I thought he tried to say that he feels the actions of Jesus could have been morally just and right. And worth recognition.

    edit: *above post* Or maybe not. What do I know.
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    divinity=realized buddha nature, makes perfect sense to me. doesn't equal "god" though. and we know from the letters of mother teresa, that she was only close to awakening, she wasn't exactly like jesus, who speaks fluently from nonduality.

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