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    Quote Originally Posted by AffirmitiveAnxiety View Post
    Interesting why did you mention a papercut? It's the smallest part of your post but it holds the most significance for me at the moment, not sure why.

    I think I just want to be someone else...as usual.
    Ah yes, a lot is possible to be learned from the smallest of statements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AffirmitiveAnxiety View Post
    Ive been wondering about this for a while.

    I dont like the connotations of 'being nice'? It always seems like some manipulative attempt at getting others to like a person.
    There's a difference between being nice, and flattering someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    There's a difference between being nice, and flattering someone.
    ^^

    also the flip question is, why are people such assholes?
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    There's a difference between being nice, and flattering someone.
    ^ This.

    Personally, I feel inclined as a person to listen to what people have to say, take it in, think it through, and filter it back with my own opinions, and more often than not I try to do this respectfully. People say this is "nice", but I don't really understand any other possible alternative. It's a fairly autonomous process.

    You say you're inclined towards conflict. Here's the important question... why? What goes through your mind in those situations? Do you want conflict for conflicts sake, or do you genuinely feel like people's opinions or in competition with your own?

    Is it desire for defense or a desire to attack, basically?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Words of Ivory View Post
    ^ This.

    Personally, I feel inclined as a person to listen to what people have to say, take it in, think it through, and filter it back with my own opinions, and more often than not I try to do this respectfully. People say this is "nice", but I don't really understand any other possible alternative. It's a fairly autonomous process.

    You say you're inclined towards conflict. Here's the important question... why? What goes through your mind in those situations? Do you want conflict for conflicts sake, or do you genuinely feel like people's opinions or in competition with your own?

    Is it desire for defense or a desire to attack, basically?
    Well im not inclined to conflict as such. Im just confused as to why I wouldn't be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    ^^

    also the flip question is, why are people such assholes?
    Normally, because they can get away with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    ^^

    also the flip question is, why are people such assholes?
    There are as many reasons for that as there are assholes on this planet.

    Quote Originally Posted by AffirmitiveAnxiety View Post
    Well im not inclined to conflict as such. Im just confused as to why I wouldn't be.
    Conflict can be risky and dangerous, even when useful. Conflict also does not make most people feel good, though for many, it feels familiar and comfortable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    There are as many reasons for that as there are assholes on this planet.



    Conflict can be risky and dangerous, even when useful. Conflict also does not make most people feel good, though for many, it feels familiar and comfortable.
    so 7 billion*

    *don't know the current population
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    I agree with oaky so many times "manipulative nice" is just from fear, sadness, anger, or personal trauma.

    There is genuine nice too. This is when you allow yourself to heal and connect with others through positive commonality or at times through shared grief.

    We're all just people though and nobody is perfect so one can become the other and vice versa. That's why everyone is out there. To help you see a different way or to help you realize when you're becoming too extreme so you can be brought back into the "force field of love" if you will (I believe is a physical as well as abstract process that "cannot be helped" [at least on one level]). I believe the eventual fate of the universe is infinite recursiveand outward expanding creation and love.
    For all that we have done, as a civilization, as individuals, the universe is not stable, and nor is any single thing within it. Stars consume themselves, the universe itself rushes apart, and we ourselves are composed of matter in constant flux. Colonies of cells in temporary alliance, replicating and decaying and housed within, an incandescent cloud of electrical impulses. This is reality, this is self knowledge, and the perception of it will, of course, make you dizzy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AffirmitiveAnxiety View Post
    Ive been wondering about this for a while.

    I dont like the connotations of 'being nice'? It always seems like some manipulative attempt at getting others to like a person.

    But why are people 'nice'? What does nice even mean? If im honest Id rather have 100 complete cucking funts who were decent in action than 1 person who was nice in words and demeanor.

    Can anyone tell me? Is there a point to niceness that isnt mired in manipulation?
    Being nice to manipulate people is not feeling in general, it's Fe.

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