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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    how would you define it ?
    Just as it sounds. Just the state of being without hope.

    How would it be different from hope or despair.
    Hope is belief that something can turn out a certain way that you want it to. Despair is just deep sadness, isn't it?

    Do you associate drives with hope ?
    Yes, in the sense that there is no drive without hope. It's hard to imagine someone working toward an impossible task. Even if the task appears impossible, if there is hope that it may not be, there is still an argument for that drive.

    Do you think hope is derived from experience and our ability to project into the future or is hope the kind of desire and trust in change for the (subjective) better?
    I think it all works together. If nothing had ever worked out the way I wanted, I might be without hope now.

    What is then the effect of an absence of hope to one's decision making and risk taking?
    I just think there's no argument for effort when there is no hope. It is wasteful.

    Is it type correlated?
    I don't think something like this can be tied to type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    I define hopelessness as admitting utter defeat. No longer seeing the possibility for the future to enfold the way you wish it too.

    Despair is not wanting to admit defeat even though you no longer see the possibility for the future to enfold the way you wish it too.
    I agree with this.
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