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    Quote Originally Posted by iwakar View Post
    Can creativity truly be suppressed? Isn't it so intrinsic that it can't be?

    Also, is there a difference between creativity and ingenuity?
    To answer the first question, I think most people have creative urges from time to time, which I think can be suppressed. Think about people who have creative ideas but don't put them to fruition because of fear of ridicule or failure. Creative thinking without real-world implementation of creative ideas is less likely to be suppressed but still possible if you've undergone repeated ridicule or disdain for your ideas, you might try to shut down that part of yourself.

    Regarding the second question, I'm not sure there is much of a difference between creativity and ingenuity. People seem to use the term creativity to describe things of a more artistic nature, like art, music, poetry, etc. and use ingenuity to describe things like ideas and inventions. Personally, I don't think of them as being different. Creativity and ingenuity can be found on all realms, not just artistic ones, and hey, what is art anyway?
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    Yep absolutely. I also believe that not having a developed creative outlet hurts.
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    Yes, I believe it is very possible to suppress someone's creative reach, especially in early childhood development.

    By the same coin, I believe that suppressing someone's opportunities early in life can have a positive aspect on their creativity if they choose to embrace their creativity as their escape from reality. But that's about the only positive effect that could come from such an upbringing.

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    I guess totalitarianism such as in 1984 can also suppress creativity. Since you're forbidden to think by yourself and must instead find all your answers from a single source, your creativity eventually degenerates as you become entirely dependant on your "masters".

    I see creativity as requiring either sense-based art or imagination (such as painting or writing original novels), while ingenuity is a logical process filled with deductions and external ideas. In that case I have ingenuity but lack creativity. So yes, I'd say there is a difference.

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    I think the act of giving someone more to work with (opportunities, tools, experiences, ideas) can help one practice and foster creativity, and that the absence of those things may stifle it. So, I'm a huge fan of equipping people with these things.

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    Take persons on medications for example, or are we not including those?
    Been there. Some medications take a huge toll on one's motivation in general--and without proper motivation, one's not going to bother with creative thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigmata View Post
    What is the Public Education System for $300, Mr. Trebek.
    I surely hope not As a teacher, I do the best I can...

    My own experience:
    Interesting and inspiring subjects: math, science, foreign languages, religion (Catholic schools are mainstraim in my country, but they aren't nearly as Catholic as the pope wishes; also our religion teacher was a sexuologist with a passion for philosophy.)
    Subjects where creativity comes to die: history, art appreciation, mother language (you know, where you have to read the boring books selected by a bunch of old specialists as 'literature', while for foreign languages you were allowed to choose books that you liked. Also, I always thought book reports and essays were a preliminary exercise, but we never got to the fun part - writing about our own ideas instead of about someone else's. I learnt more about writing during my university years, with zero language courses, than I did during six years of Dutch four hours a week.).

    I think the teacher can make a huge difference. I mean, right now, history belongs to my "interesting and inspiring" category.
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    Universal literacy, brought to us by free, secular and compulsory education gave us creativity and the individul genius.

    And compulsory education is Prussian Pedagogy.

    We are compelled by law to go to school by State law to learn to read and write and become literate, to run on rails like the steam train, and when we fail to keep up, we can redeem ourselves by getting back on track. How many times have you heard people say that?

    But today, in the comfort of our homes, we are not compelled by State law to learn to use the telephone, the radio, the television, the ipod and the computer. We learn to use the electronic media naturally, without the need for Prussian Pedagogy, creativity or the individual genius.

    So creativity is over as we find our place in the electronic tribes of the global village.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iwakar View Post
    Can creativity truly be suppressed? Isn't it so intrinsic that it can't be?
    Sure. Writers block comes to mind.

    Also, is there a difference between creativity and ingenuity?
    I see creativity as an expression. Ingenuity is problem solving but it can be creative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Universal literacy, brought to us by free, secular and compulsory education gave us creativity and the individul genius.
    And compulsory education is Prussian Pedagogy.

    We are compelled by law to go to school by State law to learn to read and write and become literate, to run on rails like the steam train, and when we fail to keep up, we can redeem ourselves by getting back on track. How many times have you heard people say that?

    But today, in the comfort of our homes, we are not compelled by State law to learn to use the telephone, the radio, the television, the ipod and the computer. We learn to use the electronic media naturally, without the need for Prussian Pedagogy, creativity or the individual genius.

    So creativity is over as we find our place in the electronic tribes of the global village.
    So compulsury education fosters creativity? Totally absurd. Mythopoetics and logic make for poor bedfellows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iwakar View Post
    Can creativity truly be suppressed? Isn't it so intrinsic that it can't be?

    Also, is there a difference between creativity and ingenuity?
    Creativity relies upon a sense of agency. One's sense of agency is not innate, it's learned, it's a positive externality of the process of individuation. It's very easy to block this process in people, or to convince them that its pursuit is not worthwhile. Expression is still possible when this occurs, but it lacks the transformational quality of true creativity.

    I think that ingenuity is a lesser form of creativity. Creative people create their world; ingenious people simply manipulate that which is already present.

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