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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    That is all true, actually. And using my own words against me, tricky. But yeah, I have to say I relate so strongly to informing it isn't funny. I throw the directing types out by throwing new ideas out mid process. To me that is just natural process.

    I admit to relating most strongly to esfp in Thompson's book too. 
    Using your words against you? No. Tricky? No.
    Theory? Yes. That's all that is relevant to me, here.

    And if you relate most strongly with ESFP, why did you start this thread? Lol.
    You're one of the most well-liked fellas in the forum whether you're ABCD or 1234.

    Does type really matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post




    Never mess with egg love.

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    I love eggs though clearly not as much as SPs
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    Plus, I just felt like it.
    Screams Fi-dom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    FAIL.
    If you want to be annoying you have to be some flavour of J.
    Oh!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Using your words against you? No. Tricky? No.
    Theory? Yes. That's all that is relevant to me, here.

    And if you relate most strongly with ESFP, why did you start this thread? Lol.
    You're one of the most well-liked fellas in the forum whether you're ABCD or 1234.

    Does type really matter?
    Not really, I've got a pretty good handle on who I am. Some mix of isfp/esfp/istp, type did help. I really liked your feedback, well thought out. Thanks. I related to esfp in that book, other times not so much. But yeah, I really just felt like talking about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    I love eggs though clearly not as much as SPs

    We both weight train. A non egg loving weight trainer is about as common as an es*p on a typology forum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redbone View Post
    Screams Fi-dom.
    Haha, yeah?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    ... used... to find a better-fit type for people, but remain conflicted.


    Directing:

    Focus on: Task/Time focus
    Intent: Give structure, direct.
    Behavior: Tell, ask, urge.
    Comfort Zone: Comfortable telling people what to do.

    Tendencies:

    • Impatient with emergent process.
    • Often surprised when people resist in being told what to do.
    • May get frustrated by a lack of clear position.
    • Tend to act certain they are right.
    • May be seen as bossy.


    • More forceful voice to create urgency.
    • Often more straightforward statements.
    • Moving forward, definite.



    Informing:

    Focus on: Process/motivation focus
    Intent: Evoke, inspire, seek input.
    Behavior: Inform, inquire, explain, describe
    Comfort zone: Giving information, and less comfortable telling people what to do.

    Tendencies:

    • More patient with emergent process.
    • Often surprised when information isn't acted on.
    • May be offended at being told what to do.
    • More likely to be seen as non-commital.
    • May be seen as indecisive.


    • More tentative tone of voice to invite agreement.
    • Often more subtle statements.
    • Flowing, open, eliciting.


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    Models exist for a reason - they're not designed to categorize types "just because they feel like it."

    Cheers, buddy.
    I follow this, but keep in mind this behavior describes trends that are going to be effected by context and experience. If an STP type repeatably fails to recognize people who respond poorly to "orders" and is met with resistance, then their behavior is maladaptive. Similar for an SFP who gets offended each and every time someone tells them something directly. An adaptive person can put on many hats.

    So, to some extent, MBTI is about preference. If someone feels like being something else, and they adapt into being that, then what's the hang-up? While some of these behaviors seem to be stable personality traits, people can train themselves into being all sorts of things. It's a balance between what they want and what they are, and in the end, it's just a model to exploit for gaining insight, and it works alright either way.

    EDIT: seems like most of these topics have been addressed in the interim, but i'll keep this here.
    Don't know how much it'll bend til it breaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Theory? Yes. That's all that is relevant to me, here.

    And if you relate most strongly with ESFP, why did you start this thread? Lol.
    You're one of the most well-liked fellas in the forum whether you're ABCD or 1234.

    Does type really matter?
    I've been thinking about this. I'm interested in where I fit in the system and find it a useful base to work from in getting more out of myself. It's nice to be liked too.

    What other measures does Beren's have? Anything you can reccomend?

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    I see you and Kingfisher as two peas in a pod. He thought he was ISTP initially so I can see this about you. I relate to you both pretty well. Be who you wanna be. I ain't hating. lol.
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    lol I don't care about giving anyone orders either. I mean, it depends on what first and foremost. It's not like so much is at stake and I have to be obeyed, as a rule. I'd take more pleasure in starting a fight with people like that. And if by chance, I knock them on their ass (figuratively or literally), I still don't have a need to order them around. Like I had to win something. I tell them to gtfo of my face. That's about the only order I care to give.

    If directive is more subtle, then I'd understand that. "Turn here." "Step on the gas." "Wake the f up dude, we have to go." But that writeup doesn't make it sound very casual. It sounds like being at some job with an autistic for a boss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    lol I don't care about giving anyone orders either.
    Well, I do. Get in line, bitch.

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    Analyzer/Operater: Actively solving problems. Observing how things work. Talent for using tools for the best approach. Need to be independent. Act on their hunches or intuitions. Understanding a situation. Taking things apart. Making discoveries. Sharing those discoveries. Unsettled by powerful emotional experiences.

    Gotta say, this description fits me on-the-mark. I've gotta check this out a whole lot more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICUP View Post
    Well, I do. Get in line, bitch.
    Ask yourself if you're doing it just for the sake of doing it, or because you're focused on task.

    The writeup above sounds like the former. Like it describes someone who needs to either find themselves in or implement structure around them. More akin to Te, than Ti.

    Same goes for how other things are worded. "May get frustrated by a clear lack of position." That sounds like more Te. If it was talking about more task orientedness and getting frustrated by a clear lack of a position in solving a specific problem, then I'd agree, but that sounds like more of the same about power structures.

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