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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post

    It should also be noted that last night, I was advised how pissed off Patches was going to be about my behavior. I was told that ventrillo is unmoderated there are no rules except don't post porn, and if I was really an adult, I wouldn't need to go to the mods anyway. How I should just leave, and that all I am doing is pissing the Mods off.
    See this is proof of you misunderstanding what anyone else has to say.

    I am the person who told you patches was going to be angry. I never mentioned that she will be angry with you. I meant the entire situation and how it has been handled, blown out of proportion, and has leaked into the forum, but mostly, because she will have to be involved(dragged into it after coming back from vacation). Not you. Your constant need to MAKE ASSUMPTIONS is the reason people don't take you seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YWIR View Post
    I was surprised he put up with the amount of talking you do about your MBTI type. Every single day, for hours on end. Who wouldn't? This is not news to you that everyone has heard this speech a million times. So yes, it is surprising.
    There comes a time where no one cares anymore and the same conversation gets very very old. I'm sure you understand this. That's not exactly ideas and theories. That is you talking about your functions, behavior, and type.
    Yes, you are generally engaging, and you do say interesting things every now and then, even if it is at times ignorant( like homosexuality being a fetish/choice); it does starts up a conversation.
    You usually refuse to acknowledge what anyone else has to say. You are constantly dismissive and very reluctant to change your mind on anything; people generally act in turn. You ask what they think, and if it is in disagreement, you don't exactly react pleasantly.
    This is coming from a person who quite likes you( while being aware of your opinion of me). I enjoy your company on vent when you're not bitching about your mbti type, or calling someone an idiot for not agreeing with you in regards to the new "theory" you have conjured up.
    I've watched you crucify others for what you believe is them behaving in a hypocritical manner, even though you yourself have displayed hypocritical behavior countless times. This is normal, everyone is a hypocrite every now and then, and since you pride yourself on being fair, you have to acknowledge this.
    I noticed your main issue is your inability to understand what someone else has to say or their point of view. You usually take criticism as an insult and a form of disrespect rather than an honest opinion, which usually sets you off.

    People are just generally tired of communicating with you because of this. They don't bother investing time with someone who constantly wants to talk about themselves and their ideas without listening to what they also have to say.
    D I have spoken to dave about my MBTI type maybe a handful of times among other conversations. Don't give me that crap, we have spoken about many other things. Including yes both of our personal experiences.

    I also don't think my view of homosexuality or how it evolved, or my views are stupid. As far as I know, they make a lot of sense. Maybe I would be more receptive of other peoples contributions if they didn't start by trying to tell me what a horrible horrible person I am, who will rot in hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senza_tema View Post
    TG, I don't deny that people pick on you, sometimes in groups, just to get a rise out of you and I agree that this is unacceptable. Some of the responses to your concerns in this thread have been downright distasteful.

    However, in light of your point about throwing things into the conversation and not expecting anyone to respond to them ... no. There are times when people have ignored your comments and continued with their own conversations at which point you usually complain about how no one is paying any attention to your contributions because they dislike you and are basically stupid people, etc. I have seen this happen more than once.

    On the other hand, if people do respond to something you said in a manner that you don't like (which is sometimes justifiable and sometimes not) you fly off the handle. It's a no-win situation.

    I agree with you that a lot of the conversation on Vent is silly, some people enjoy it (I often do) and others don't, which is fine, it's a matter of personal preference. From my experience, it's not invariably the case and I've seen several thought-provoking discussions take place as well. Your attitude, however, is dismissive from the get go, and might make people reluctant to involve you in conversation if they believe that you're just going to dismiss them out of hand. You're both entitled to your attitudes, preference and opinions, but if you're looking for common ground that you can both enjoy, your way of going about it is likely not going to yield any results.

    There are ways to get what you want. You have to put some work into getting them. Digging in your heels and expecting them to just come to you isn't going to work. Like Saturned said, rethinking your strategies might.

    I also believe that the onus shouldn't be wholly on you and that people can be more civil. However, civility is a two way street.
    My becoming frustrated with the changing vent conversations was months ago, please provide an example of where I have acted like that recently. You will note that I have not. As stated before, most of the time, I just talk to myself, and do not disrupt your conversations. Also, the very problem I am addressing right now, is the same one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YWIR View Post
    See this is proof of you misunderstanding what anyone else has to say.

    I am the person who told you patches was going to be angry. I never mentioned that she will be angry with you. I meant the entire situation and how it has been handled, blown out of proportion, and has leaked into the forum, but mostly, because she will have to be involved(dragged into it after coming back from vacation). Not you. Your constant need to MAKE ASSUMPTIONS is the reason people don't take you seriously.
    Please, maybe when stated singly that would fly, but in groups of people yelling at you from every end, in every way discouraging, it has a purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    D I have spoken to dave about my MBTI type maybe a handful of times among other conversations. Don't give me that crap, we have spoken about many other things. Including yes both of our personal experiences.

    I also don't think my view of homosexuality or how it evolved, or my views are stupid. As far as I know, they make a lot of sense. Maybe I would be more receptive of other peoples contributions if they didn't start by trying to tell me what a horrible horrible person I am, who will rot in hell.
    Well, start a thread about it. If you think a certain way, have some theories to back it up. Don't just say " hey I believe this, I don't care what you all say, that's that, conversation over".

    Start a thread, I'm sure plenty of people will participate with you.

    You are playing the victim, when you have dished just as much as anyone has towards you. The only difference in this situation is that you have not handled as well as they have. I don't think you're a horrible person, or that you will rot in hell. I realize this is not necessary in the long run, but it needs to be made.

    Regarding the type discussion. Come on tg, you can not be serious. I think he reached his breaking point a few days ago when he called you ISTJ and you flipped the fuck out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    I don't find the premise of the thread stupid. People have been banned before for not exactly breaking forum rules, but for being consistently disruptive. If I were the cause of the constant disruption, I could be banned for that.

    It should also be noted that last night, I was advised how pissed off Patches was going to be about my behavior. I was told that ventrillo is unmoderated there are no rules except don't post porn, and if I was really an adult, I wouldn't need to go to the mods anyway. How I should just leave, and that all I am doing is pissing the Mods off.

    If that isn't an example of coercion in the manner I am clearly stating I am trolled in, I don't know what is. That emotional manipulation bullshit is toxic, and there is a group dynamic of this happening on vent.
    I didn't say it was stupid (although it is), I said it was overly dramatic and was a poor attempt at veiling what your real motive in all of this is.

    I think you would meet with better results from other people if you listened to what others said, took the giant chip off of your shoulder when interacting with others, and realized that you don't have all the answers. Your behavior in this thread exemplifies what part you have taken in how you are treated by other people.

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    I am tired of defending my own position. This thread does not need to go any further. For the record, I think its sick, and very disturbing, when groups make comments about the power of the "hive mind".

    Trust me I have no desire to spend anymore time there. I just think it is sick that after all the history, knowledge, and awareness people have of people, there are groups still more than willing to participate in such animistic dynamics.

    The quality of my discussion, which is debatable, is in no way a justification for having to argue myself against group of people, or shut up and take it, with no promise of the others to change their behavior at all. As a matter of fact it is so perfectly acceptable, they can do as such out in the open, without consequence, and rub that into people's faces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YWIR View Post
    Well, start a thread about it. If you think a certain way, have some theories to back it up. Don't just say " hey I believe this, I don't care what you all say, that's that, conversation over".

    Start a thread, I'm sure plenty of people will participate with you.

    You are playing the victim, when you have dished just as much as anyone has towards you. The only difference in this situation is that you have not handled as well as they have. I don't think you're a horrible person, or that you will rot in hell. I realize this is not necessary in the long run, but it needs to be made.

    Regarding the type discussion. Come on tg, you can not be serious. I think he reached his breaking point a few days ago when he called you ISTJ and you flipped the fuck out.
    Completely distorted.

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