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    Quote Originally Posted by Varelse View Post
    Why?

    For me-INTJ.
    because part of me desires wanting to enjoy being alone and not finding fear in it, also b/c I get so caught up in my insecurities and emotions and would like to be able to detach from them. I hunger for more logic and objectivity in my life and have always admired those who have it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWing View Post
    I hope you were kidding... you thend would be utterly bereft of many merits that you get with your IN and tertiary Ti.. ESFJs tend to have a difficult time building a sound inner identity which is paramount to INFJs..

    Oh and as far as the ESFJ need for approval is concerned and how they get it more than INFJs (because they are so conventional and their Fe is stronger.. ETC
    So... is there any POSITIVE reasons to be an ESFJ, or is one's life perpetually ruined by being of that personality type?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    So... is there any POSITIVE reasons to be an ESFJ, or is one's life perpetually ruined by being of that personality type?
    Well... the good thing about being ESFJ is that you wont run into problems with the every day errands that INs tend to... and that you can solve casual relationship problems with a relative ease just like ESTJs can get around everyday impersonal problems with their Te...

    Though I do think that you need Introverted Judgment in order to have a clear-sense of purpose in life...or at least a solid internal vision (Ni)... ESFJs lack both of them... they'd have to make an effort to develop their Si in order to be more in tune with those entities because in the long run they are essential.. whereas they may not appear to be so on the small scale of everyday activities that ESFJs tend to excell in.
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    See? And of course, ESFJ's *can* develop their Si and other functions, just like INTPs can develop Ne and their other functions.

    From what I picked up, this is supposed to be a thread about what you would like to be (and why), not a critique of why someone else's choice was lousy. If you're going to analyze a choice, let's just make sure we treat that type as fairly as we'd treat any other function.
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    I like the way Looking4thebestNU put it.

    NT: INTP. Can I say they're just completely awesome? The ability to engage fully in Ti and understand the intricacies of a system or concept. They always offer an interesting perspective to me in debates. I like their laid back attitude to things along with their covert like for other people that they express through certain gestures pretending they don't care
    NF: I wish I was an ENFP or ENFJ. You gotta lova their enthusiasm and positive energy! I wish I had those l33t people skillz
    SJ: ISTJ. I would like to have their down to earth attitude and pragmatism. They're really precise with facts and they've got their critical thinking skills up to scratch. ISTJ's are also good at being both cooperative socially and assertive when they need to.
    SP: ISTP. The ISTP is the ultimate coolness. They are very laid back people and never seem to stress about anything. I really like their attitude in general. They seem to manage everything without any effort, without giving a toss if it fails or not. They rarely make any plans but it doesn't matter they still pull it off.

    If I had to choose just one I'd go for ENFP though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    See? And of course, ESFJ's *can* develop their Si and other functions, just like INTPs can develop Ne and their other functions.

    From what I picked up, this is supposed to be a thread about what you would like to be (and why), not a critique of why someone else's choice was lousy. If you're going to analyze a choice, let's just make sure we treat that type as fairly as we'd treat any other function.

    I did not inveigh the ESFJs and earlier on, I believe I said that its unlikely that any particular type has more advantages on their quest for happiness.

    My only point was that we shouldnt talk about changing our types, but only about acquiring qualities that other types have. If we changed our types, we'd take having those qualities for granted and they wouldnt mean to us as much as they do now. Basically then we would have a whole new scene. Thats just like making 2 plus 2 equal 5 without realizing that many things we now take for granted would be different...

    But I agree that this has potential to derail the thread so its probably best that we dont take it much further than the point we are at..
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    Quote Originally Posted by targo View Post
    because part of me desires wanting to enjoy being alone and not finding fear in it, also b/c I get so caught up in my insecurities and emotions and would like to be able to detach from them. I hunger for more logic and objectivity in my life and have always admired those who have it.
    Thanks.

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    I'd like to remain an INTP but gain a bit of contentment about my type. The things I really like about being an INTP are also the very things which frustrate the hell out of me (and sometimes most of the time depress me).

    I would like to be an INTP who is perfectly comfortable in her own skin.
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    I'm not sure if I want to be stick as another type... "grass always looks greener on the other side". There'll be some good points being another type but probably just a many not so great ones that you haven't thought about.

    That being said, I wouldn't mind trying out an NT perspective... perhaps INTJ or ENTP. It'll be nice to not give a damn about people's opinions for once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightning View Post
    I'm not sure if I want to be stick as another type... "grass always looks greener on the other side". There'll be some good points being another type but probably just a many not so great ones that you haven't thought about.

    That being said, I wouldn't mind trying out an NT perspective... perhaps INTJ or ENTP. It'll be nice to not give a damn about people's opinions for once.

    I see how you'd like ENTP or INTJ out of the 4 rationals because they share your superior intuitive preferrence... but if you really want to be so focused on not giving a damn about what others think you ought to pick INTP or ENTJ.. INTP more so than the ENTJ... Introverted Thinking insulates you from the demands of others better than Extroverted... so on that note.. ENTJs... like all EJs tend to be ... are more dutiful than the INTPs and in affect would likely care more for what others think (though this certainly does not mean that they care a lot..still much less than ENTP and INTJ as they are very thorough-going thinkers and resiliently autonomous with that NT aspect of their temperament) so needless to say Te/Ti qualities would be novel asset to nearly any NF.
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