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    How about instead of defining maturity and adulthood by purely material measures(which may or may not be applicable), we try measuring it by the practice(or at least serious aspiration towards) of certain virtues - like magnanimity, temperance, prudence, justice, courage, etc. ?

    Maturity defined by ones character - not ones material situation. One is not necessarily accessible to everybody, yet the other is accessible to anybody who chooses to pursue and build it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    Seems a bit biased towards INFJ imo. Jus saying
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    A man builds. A parasite asks 'Where is my share?'
    A man creates. A parasite says, 'What will the neighbors think?'
    A man invents. A parasite says, 'Watch out, or you might tread on the toes of God... '


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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    anyone else feel this way? I know i should feel like I'm responsible and stop goofing off, but I don't think I'm a grown up yet. Its so weird to be mid 20s and not feel any sense of belonging in the world.
    Hey Prpl!

    Technically '25 and under' is what counts as 'youth' for youth and community services.

    At 25 you are still and adult but still have license to be a protracted teenager.

    Everyone's trajectory in life is different. At 23 I thought I was 'so old' and when I look back now I wish I had been crazier and lived life more. I didn't start living it up until I was 26.

    So don't worry so much about other people's rulers and just find your own path.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    Seems a bit biased towards INFJ imo. Jus saying
    Well there you go folks - only INFJs can be mature adults.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    How about instead of defining maturity and adulthood by purely material measures(which may or may not be applicable), we try measuring it by the practice(or at least serious aspiration towards) of certain virtues - like magnanimity, temperance, prudence, justice, courage, etc. ?

    Maturity defined by ones character - not ones material situation. One is not necessarily accessible to everybody, yet the other is accessible to anybody who chooses to pursue and build it.

    Yep, guess I'm still a kid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    Well there you go folks - only INFJs can be mature adults.
    This isn't the first time I've seen this kind of thing. You're not being serious I'm sure (at least not totally) but people are always telling INFJs how "mature" they are....I think it just means INFJs are really good at being socially whatever the current standard for propriety is (Fe) and additionally have insight sometimes into individuals (Ni) and are less bothersome to other people due to being introverts. INFJs are the most well-behaved people on the planet, apparently.

    However, maturity varies for each type. What is maturity for an INFJ isn't maturity for an ESTJ.

    As an FP type I tend to seethe at the suggestion that Fe = maturity.

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    Okay, so just scratch everything that was said on this page before this. To be a mature adult, (pretend theres a link attached to all these words, just pretend) you have to

    1.) Be skilled in the art of pretending.
    2.) Giggle a lot.
    3.) Have a full time job.
    4.) Avoid commitment and marriage.
    5.) Own a dog.

    So there ya have it. I'm an adult at 26, and you could be, too, by that definition. and my links.
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    I tend to view maturity as a combination of things:
    - Can take care of oneself (independent, in the materialistic sense)
    - Can engage others in ways that result in stable relationships of mutual exchange
    - Able to listen, evaluate, and accept input from others while still retaining the capacity to make decisions that might be unpopular with others
    - Able to set goals and work to achieve them in non-destructive ways
    - Able to find balance in life
    - Able to sacrifice if necessary for things one believes in, even if there is no direct benefit to self and potentially great loss
    - Able to be strong and yet vulnerable with a few close people
    - Able to look at oneself in full awareness, seeing both the strengths and the flaws, and accepting all those things for what they are

    I could go on, but you get the idea.

    EDIT: OH yeah, giggle a lot. I forgot that one.
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    26 and a half, and I'm actually finally starting to feel like an adult. Though only a year ago, people couldn't believe me when I said I was 25 due to my youthful spirit.

    I don't think being "adult" is quite how I perceived it to be when I was younger. Which is kinda cool, actually.
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    Wait...we're listing ways to be responsible?

    Dang it.

    I think the most important thing about being an adult is being able to objectively look at a situation and claim responsibility and fault when apt and one step further, do something about it, whether it is apologizing or rectifying a situation or both.

    The inability to take responsibility for one's actions is the hallmark of immaturity, and this is coming from someone who was horribly irresponsible as a teenager...and maybe through to being a young adult...

    I guess to me maturity means being able to make your ego as little of a factor as possible when assessing a situation so you are neither denying any responsibility out of defensiveness or taking responsibility for everything pre-emptively before you can be blamed for anything.
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