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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    Welcome to the club.
    Thank you, although it also includes Te. Concept to organised application.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mavericknm View Post
    It keeps the kids off drugs.

    I'm sorry, I'm no good at explaining philosophy. I can come up with the occasional witty one liner but I'll never write a decent essay; and yes, you could write an essay on my statement. So instead I'm going to leave you a bunch of bullet points that one might normally group into paragraphs, sections and then finally slap on a thesis of sorts.

    - asking questions implies a belief in the truth and justice
    = justice implies some sort of safety
    = truth cannot is irrefutable in disagreements
    - asking questions increases perspective
    = perspective mitigates antagonist disagreements and encourages cooperation
    - asking questions goes against ignorance
    = ignorance is the root of all evil or the most violent element in society (to be debated)

    - if everyone is asking questions, then collectively everyone is working towards greater truth, better justice, broader perspective and reduced ignorance
    = as time -> infinity, truth will be found, justice will be served, complete understanding will be attained and ignorance will be purged
    = progress

    - now it remains to prove that just the thought that progress (and I mean progress in a positive direction) is sufficient to feel secure
    - I propose that while on the route to the ultimate goal, all steps taken are excusable and that only the end result is of any relevance
    - even if, in the name of progress, humanity were to initiate a nuclear war, one should take security from the knowledge that anyone surviving will have made a step closer to humanity's goal

    hope is security.
    Thank you for the thorough and thoughtful response. I'm glad I asked.

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    “Isn’t there anything we can depend on? Something we can do to benefit ourselves psychologically, or spiritually, or philosophically? Can’t we find relief through some teaching or some person? No. There is nothing.

    But there is one thing we can do. We can learn to live right now, right here, right in the midst of the circle of life and death, which Buddhists call samsara. All we have to do is make our life stable, be present in the endless repetition of life and death, and just live from moment to moment. This is all we can do. There is nothing else. This is life. This is death. Life and death are not two.”

    Dainin Katagiri, Zen master (1928-1990)

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    Total autonomy.

    Ironically, it is also what terrifies the bejeezuz out of me.
    "The purpose of life is to be defeated by greater and greater things." - Rainer Maria Rilke

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    Once I'm past the basics of a decent job I like that pays a decent wage, I'd say having sufficent information about my piece of the world that I can avoid most major suprises. I hate flying blind and nothing joggles my peace of mind than a piece of anomalous data that suggests I'm missing something important. I can handle most of "the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune" but I handle them much better when I see them coming.
    Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups

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    I like "to feel secure" is essentially a personal decision.
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    E=60% S=55% T=70% P=80%

    "I don't believe in guilt, I only believe in living on impulses"

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    A certainty in the truth.
    Understanding what I'm responsible for.
    A sense of action and motivation.
    An ace up my sleeve.

    Security feels like the phrase, "I'm on top of this".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    A clear pathway in life. I need a future goal to work towards. Without it, it's such an uncomfortable, aimless feeling.
    This. I don't function well without a plan and winging it is rarely part of my vocabulary.
    I like to rock n' roll all night and *part* of every day. I usually have errands... I can only rock from like 1-3.

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    Having a cushion of money. Enough to be comfortable, have a working car and roof over my head, food, some entertainment, and lots more to put away. Also, having a secured job, living in the same town, and support system in case things fail. Having an education under my belt. The longer period of time I have these things, the more secure I feel.
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    Practical stuff:
    money in my pocket
    cell phone on hand, in case I need help
    a safe/reliable way to get home
    a home to go to
    food in my home

    Emotional stuff:
    a hug from someone I'd actually appreciate a hug from (gaaaaaw, that's so INFP)
    the physical presence of someone who I know loves me
    when someone else believes in me
    independence, but knowing there's still someone to support me if I need it

    Philosophical stuff:
    faith
    spirituality
    hope
    knowing my own worth
    Often a star was waiting for you to notice it. A wave rolled toward you out of the distant past, or as you walked under an open window, a violin yielded itself to your hearing. All this was mission. But could you accomplish it? (Rilke)

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