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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    I have a problem when stats are too heavily relied upon. But that's me.
    I can understand that, as it is important to be able to argue your case in a variety of ways.

    However stats are impersonal, which creates some leverage when we're discussing something like this where people can rather...uh...passionate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    I wouldn't trust banks if I were you.
    Oh, bite me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Oh, bite me.
    I've already had my pound of flesh for today.


    come back tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    Well I don't see it as punishing people but it is what it is.
    Denying it is kinda delusional/naive.
    Sure, I am just trying to understand why the other side feel the way they do, as well...

    If I was in a more cynical mood I would put all opposition to what we're saying down to envy of smarter, stronger people, period. However, the reality is that on a macro level, it's frustrating to see one group of people continue to out-perform another over generations, no matter what you try and do to reduce those inequalities. To make matters worse, the only logical explanation which could explain such failure invalidates your ideology, which you hold as dearly as a religion.

    Therefore the liberals retreat into a circle-jerk about racism, class conflict and make pathetic attempts at rationalising both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kullervo View Post
    Sure, I am just trying to understand why the other side feel the way they do, as well...

    If I was in a more cynical mood I would put all opposition to what we're saying down to envy of smarter, stronger people, period. However, the reality is that on a macro level, it's frustrating to see one group of people continue to out-perform another over generations, no matter what you try and do to reduce those inequalities. To make matters worse, the only logical explanation which could explain such failure invalidates your ideology, which you hold as dearly as a religion.

    Therefore the liberals retreat into a circle-jerk about racism, class conflict and make pathetic attempts at rationalising both.
    Yeah, that's it in a nutshell.

    well put.
    Expression of the post modern paradox : "For the love of god, religions are so full of shit"

    Theory is always superseded by Fact...
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    “I’d hate to die twice. It’s so boring.”
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    "Great is the human who has not lost his childlike heart."
    Mencius (Meng-Tse), 4th century BCE

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    Intelligence is a word that can't be measure on a scale. It's a quality similar magic. People often try to try to explain magic but they can't. The same applies with intelligence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by great_bay View Post
    Intelligence is a word that can't be measure on a scale. It's a quality similar magic. People often try to try to explain magic but they can't. The same applies with intelligence.
    No. Though it's an often used cop out

    I suggest you read up on Nietzschean 'Slave Morality'
    Expression of the post modern paradox : "For the love of god, religions are so full of shit"

    Theory is always superseded by Fact...
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    “I’d hate to die twice. It’s so boring.”
    Richard Feynman's last recorded words

    "Great is the human who has not lost his childlike heart."
    Mencius (Meng-Tse), 4th century BCE

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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    No. Though it's an often used cop out
    I thought it was an interesting comment. I have an acquaintance with an outrageous IQ level. He's a fucking idiot who lost millions. And women dump drinks over his head for saying crazy shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    I thought it was an interesting comment. I have an acquaintance with an outrageous IQ level. He's a fucking idiot who lost millions. And women dump drinks over his head for saying crazy shit.
    anecdotal. Out of curiosity did he 'make' millions before he lost them?
    Expression of the post modern paradox : "For the love of god, religions are so full of shit"

    Theory is always superseded by Fact...
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    “I’d hate to die twice. It’s so boring.”
    Richard Feynman's last recorded words

    "Great is the human who has not lost his childlike heart."
    Mencius (Meng-Tse), 4th century BCE

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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    anecdotal. Out of curiosity did he 'make' millions before he lost them?
    He stole them.

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