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    I was born in '81 so I am right at the border of X and Y.

    Do you know the movie Garden State? I once had a discussion with my friends that if you can genuinely relate to the characters in this movie and the struggles they are going through you are probably part of Gen Y, if not you are probably part of Gen X. It's my favourite movie so I guess that makes me a Yer.

    I showed it to people who were my age or just a few years younger and they completely related to it while most people older than me or more than 7 or 8 years younger than me tend not to get the movie and find it boring.


    And concerning the whole discussion about the collapse of the Soviet Union, I was born in East Germany behind the Iron Curtain and 8 when the Berlin Wall collapsed and I don't remember much about it, it certainly didn't influence my thinking massively because I just didn't have the mental framework to realise what was happening (while for example the war in Yugoslavia a few years later was something that definitely struck a cord with me) However my mum who was 30 when Communism collapsed has been marked by the change, she once told me she would never believe in something as strongly again as she did in Socialism, since the collapse of a whole system and everything she was brought up to believe in was just far too much of a traumatic experience for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightyear View Post
    I was born in '81 so I am right at the border of X and Y.

    Do you know the movie Garden State? I once had a discussion with my friends that if you can genuinely relate to the characters in this movie and the struggles they are going through you are probably part of Gen Y, if not you are probably part of Gen X. It's my favourite movie so I guess that makes me a Yer.
    This is B.S. ...I know people several years older than you who love that movie.

    This is just illustrating the same concept I'm talking about, about 1977-1985 (roughly) being a sort of sub-group of its own.

    Of course it could just prove that Gen Y began in '77. I've seen sources that say '77 to sometime in the early 90's is actually Gen Y, then a seperate generation began after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    an ENTJ socialist? that's not something you see every day
    I know an ENTJ whose very collectivist if not socialist.

    It really depends on culture, bro. You've been brainwashed into thinking all NTJs think like Ayn Rand, and it's just not so. She experienced some kind of trauma in the Soviet Union and just went to the other extreme because of formative experiences. That's why I can't take her seriously.

    Have a mentioned I know an INTJ from the former Soviet Union who considers himself a left libertarian who calls Ayn Rand "crazy Russian woman"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    1) Relatability: being able to relate to everyone is a bad thing. it's a sign you are either conformist, people pleasing or common.
    2) Agreability: anyone who is afraid to disagree is a coward with no personality
    3) Equality: not everything is equal. that's logically impossible and naive of anyone to trully believe
    4) self sacrifice: a culture of self sacrifice leads to a wellfare state because everyone refuses to actually be successful or happy. this leaves you with a society or poor people who are ashamed on themselves and feel the need to give away all their economic value to justify their existance
    5) soft spokenness: believe it or not, not everyone who speaks confidently and with proper projection is yelling at you.
    6) false humility: ugh, come on people have some backbone
    Watch out; you're going to get rotten vegetables thrown at you by some for pointing out that I'm 'Just not as Generation Y' as they are.

    All generations are a rejection of the failed axioms of the past.

    I'm more than sure the generation after this one will be inclined to be much more cohesive minded than the staunch and insufferable independence of Generation Z.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    This is B.S. ...I know people several years older than you who love that movie.
    It was just a thought and I didn't proclaim it as the holy truth. So if you could tone down your responses please, then I might want to listen to the rest of what you have to say instead of thinking "WTF!".

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    LMAO at "tone down your responses."

    You must be very F.

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    Ladies, please! Come onto Ventrilo if you are going to engage in fighting talk

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    I'm not fighting. All I did was say that I thought something was B.S. and she got upset or something instead of just responding.

    I don't even think I was being harsh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InvisibleJim View Post
    Watch out; you're going to get rotten vegetables thrown at you by some for pointing out that I'm 'Just not as Generation Y' as they are.

    All generations are a rejection of the failed axioms of the past.

    I'm more than sure the generation after this one will be inclined to be much more cohesive minded than the staunch and insufferable independence of Generation Z.
    I'm NOT part of a Generation Y, I'm part of the Generation of Millennials!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    I know an ENTJ whose very collectivist if not socialist.

    It really depends on culture, bro. You've been brainwashed into thinking all NTJs think like Ayn Rand, and it's just not so. She experienced some kind of trauma in the Soviet Union and just went to the other extreme because of formative experiences. That's why I can't take her seriously.

    Have a mentioned I know an INTJ from the former Soviet Union who considers himself a left libertarian who calls Ayn Rand "crazy Russian woman"?
    My respect for NTJ's have now been risen. Thank You.

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