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    Quote Originally Posted by Arclight View Post
    Why silly? This is a discussion about morality, there is nothing "scientific" going on in this thread.
    If by "science" you mean "objective importance" then I have to disagree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ultimawepun View Post
    What we really need is to teach people to always question their beliefs —theism, atheism, everything.
    I question that!

    ...how am I doing so far?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefeater View Post
    If by "science" you mean "objective importance" then I have to disagree.
    No, I mean morality is totally subjective and therefore has no scientific value in terms of quantifying or qualifying what is silly or not.
    All 7 billion versions of morality on the planet have the same value scientifically.
    One is not more "silly" than the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arclight View Post
    No, I mean morality is totally subjective and therefore has no scientific value in terms of quantifying or qualifying what is silly or not.
    All 7 billion versions of morality on the planet have the same value scientifically.
    One is not more "silly" than the other.

    If you think nothing beyond what is observable science is capable of being silly then i have no interest in discussing anything with you since you place no value on what is being exchanged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arclight View Post
    No, I mean morality is totally subjective and therefore has no scientific value in terms of quantifying or qualifying what is silly or not.
    All 7 billion versions of morality on the planet have the same value scientifically.
    One is not more "silly" than the other.
    I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at. Could you expand on this theme?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at. Could you expand on this theme?
    Who has the moral and authoritative right to judge another person's morality, or concept thereof? As long as they remain consistent in their morality , they have ethical integrity. The opposite is hypocrisy.

    7 billion people, believe 7 billion different things, due to 7 billion individual and unique perceptions. Who is right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arclight View Post
    Who has the moral and authoritative right to judge another person's morality, or concept thereof? As long as they remain consistent in their morality , they have ethical integrity. The opposite is hypocrisy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefeater View Post
    If you think nothing beyond what is observable science is capable of being silly then i have no interest in discussing anything with you since you place no value on what is being exchanged.
    You depreciated someones opinion based solely on your own values. You are the one trying to use science here my friend, not me.
    "Silly" by your definition, is a measurement, that's science. I am talking about something much much bigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefeater View Post
    The state for one
    That's pretty black and white. That doesn't mean they are right. The point is, there is no wrong or right. If you can't grasp that , then yes we are done, I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefeater View Post
    The state for one
    Maybe if I was a slave, I would definitely agree.

    Since I'm not, I don't know where to start. It's almost bordering on parody. Something worse than a slavish mentality.

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