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    Question The "Mastermind" description

    Now I wonder...why did someone assign the INTJ group with that label? I just don't get it: I'm not into that sort of thing after all :steam:. [But my brother is ]
    “To explain all nature is too difficult a task for any one man or even for any one age. 'Tis much better to do a little with certainty, & leave the rest for others that come after you, than to explain all things by conjecture without making sure of any thing.”—Statement from unpublished notes for the Preface to the Opticks (1704) by Newton.

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    which label would you assign yourself if mastermind doesn't fit you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thisica View Post
    Now I wonder...why did someone assign the INTJ group with that label? I just don't get it: I'm not into that sort of thing after all :steam:. [But my brother is ]
    Those would be Keirsey's labels, and by MBTI standards it's obvious that he was overreaching a little bit. Not all INTJs will have the character of a "Mastermind." That discounts the myriad ways in which Ni and Te can be used, and reduces them to a singular tendency.

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    Yes. If in doubt, ignore Keirsey. He reduces people to mere stereotypes and any deviation from them means your description won't match. I've read one of his books, Please Understand Me II, and the descriptions on his website - totally useless IMO. But form your own opinion ;]. I just don't really fit any of his descriptions. If anything, his idea of the NT temperament sounds like enneagram 5 and not any specific MBTI type. This is probably why my dad, a Keirsey fan, still insist I'm an NT. I'm not. I'm just E5. I know ISTJ Fives as well that have been mistyped as "Mastermind" until they learned Si vs. Ni.
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    Keirsey typed himself as INTJ. It's just him being modest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by burymecloser View Post
    Keirsey typed himself as INTJ. It's just him being modest.
    “To explain all nature is too difficult a task for any one man or even for any one age. 'Tis much better to do a little with certainty, & leave the rest for others that come after you, than to explain all things by conjecture without making sure of any thing.”—Statement from unpublished notes for the Preface to the Opticks (1704) by Newton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snuggletron View Post
    which label would you assign yourself if mastermind doesn't fit you?
    I prefer not to put labels on me. I'm me, after all.
    “To explain all nature is too difficult a task for any one man or even for any one age. 'Tis much better to do a little with certainty, & leave the rest for others that come after you, than to explain all things by conjecture without making sure of any thing.”—Statement from unpublished notes for the Preface to the Opticks (1704) by Newton.

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    I would say Mastermind strokes the male INTJ ego. And for female INTJ there is a point of difference that would be unlike Mastermind, I just haven't a word for it.

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    Is it akin to the inner analyst with controlled emotions?
    “To explain all nature is too difficult a task for any one man or even for any one age. 'Tis much better to do a little with certainty, & leave the rest for others that come after you, than to explain all things by conjecture without making sure of any thing.”—Statement from unpublished notes for the Preface to the Opticks (1704) by Newton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thisica View Post
    Is it akin to the inner analyst with controlled emotions?
    Unsure, I do know that INTJ females aren't masterminds in that same respects INTJ males want to be portrayed as. You know like INTPs are referred to as architects yet strangely I find that male INTPs like being called Architects while INTP females would probably prefer different terminology. Sometimes the distinctions seem confusing because the effects, values and perceptions are different for how males and females interpret cognitively as well. Its subtle but its there, at least its what I've come to realise and now I have a healthier view of how INTJ are which I'm happier to note because before I was somewhat disconnected by my experiences.

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