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    Can we change a rule, a nose, a person?
    Can we change a nation?
    Can we change a fool?
    Can we change the weather?
    Can we keep it cool?
    Make love, make life, make a star?
    Can we end a war?
    Can we really ever change?
    Can we ever really ever change?
    Can we really really ever change?

    Yes, we can!

    [YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQXskakfnLM"]Yes we can![/YOUTUBE]

    Just felt like saying we really really can. Discuss!
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    We can't change since we are always changing. What implys that we actually never trully change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    We can't change since we are always changing. What implys that we actually never trully change.
    You mean we will always be only one person at a time, therefor we are always the same person.

    But it doesn't mean we have to be that same person all the time. So the song is still right, we have choices, thus we can change!
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    I am simply saying that changes are what is keeping us from fundamentaly changing ourself. Since change is an illusion.
    In other words I think that they only real change would be if we stop changing ourself completely.

    (if that makes sense)


    But to be honest I didn't really pay attention to the song.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    I am simply saying that changes are what is keeping us from fundamentaly changing ourself. Since change is an illusion.
    In other words I think that they only real change would be if we stop changing ourself completely.

    (if that makes sense)


    But to be honest I didn't really pay attention to the song.
    Woah, ease off the big picture .

    Yeah, everything is an illusion since time plays out how time will play out and all the choices we will make are the choices we will make. But how much value do you want to asign to that empyrical truth? If you would go by that truth non stop in your life, you wouldn't be on this forum here but you'd stop eating and drinking and die of dehydration in a few days. Something must be keeping you going, some value outside of that truth that whatever choices you make or do are set in stone and meaningless. And why not. The knowledge each and every one of us posess independantly, is far from all the knowledge in the world. So why not live life and make changes for yourself towards any goals you may set, however meaningless that may be in an empyrical sense.
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    Changes aren't permanent, but change is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arclight View Post
    Changes aren't permanent, but change is.
    Ehh. So if one is to change, they can never go back or change further and remain the same until they die? :P
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    [youtube="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev1BISBD4HA"].[/youtube]

    This became the song of a lot of people when the Berlin wall fell. And it should become the song of a new nation emerging from a deep depression. Yes we can
    [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEBvftJUwDw&t=0s[/URL]

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