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    Quote Originally Posted by Queen Kat View Post
    . BUT if I could change something, I'd want bigger boobs (I have C/D right now, I'd like E or F),
    good lord, talk to some actual women with boobs that size and I bet most of them would give them away in a heartbeat (and many do) - talk about back problems. C is already larger than average and D is quite large. The larger they get, they often sag pretty badly with age, too (I know not everyone, but definitely all/most I've seen). Why would you ever want bigger than a C let alone D??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomnity View Post
    good lord, talk to some actual women with boobs that size and I bet most of them would give them away in a heartbeat (and many do) - talk about back problems. C is already larger than average and D is quite large. The larger they get, they often sag pretty badly with age, too (I know not everyone, but definitely all/most I've seen). Why would you ever want bigger than a C let alone D??
    My body is out of proportion. If I'd want everything to be in proportion, the upperside of my body has to gain 4 centimeters (= 2 bra sizes).
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    I've seen photos of you here and you don't look at all out of proportion - maybe compared to a porn star, because that's what plastic surgery is for...but not for normal attractive people.

    Also, the ideal might be to have huge boobs, a tiny waist and somewhat wide hips, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily healthy or practical....I've actually heard more people complaining about large boobs (usually D or E size) than small ones...and I don't think you could say men in general prefer the massively huge ones, porn stars aside....most body shapes have their admirers.
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    Health & physical beauty:

    Useful and able bodies are beautiful to me. Having the ability to participate in things on the fly - climb a tree, carry a heavy box, have awesome, sweaty sex - is part of what defines beauty in both men and women in my mind. Human beings who are more ornamental than anything just seem... lacking in spark and colour to my eyes. A person's health is apparent in their skin, hair and face - a pinched expression telling of consistent stress or irritation, for instance. Form tends to naturally follow function when it comes to fitness.

    So health and beauty are inextricably linked, for me*. Thick or thin is dependent on the person's body type and lifestyle, so I can't necessarily give a generalized answer to that.

    I wouldn't change what I look like. I'm healthy, active and can climb a tree whenever I damn well please.

    *Sickness outside of one's control is an entirely different matter.

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    Haha, I wrote a ten page essay on beauty ideals through time in Europe through the portrayal of the Virgin Mary...it is crazy how they change so drastically. :rolli:


    What is health for you?
    Being healthy, in mind, body, and spirit. Eating well, exercising, maintaining good social connections, keeping close to family, having spiritual significance in your life, etc.

    What is beauty?
    Confidence and symmetry.

    Is a person healthy if the person is thin or thick? in your opinion.
    A person is healthy regardless of body type. I'm naturally heavier than many women my height, but that's because I naturally carry more muscle and am built differently, but I'm still physically healthy. Same goes with a 120 lb girl of my height. She may look skinny, but if that is how she is built then she is healthy.

    Women, are you happy with your look, or is there something you would like to change? - What?
    Nah...I think I'm sexay just the way I am.

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    1. What is health for you?
    I suppose it's the body & mind functioning as they are supposed to. There are various ways to measure health in people, and I definitely think it is gauged in relation to age. I think lifestyle comes into the picture also. A person may lead an unhealthy lifestyle & not have any repercussions from it, but I still would not call them healthy; I suppose it's the idea that they will probably not maintain their health for long... Whereas a person may have some genetic factors working against them, but lead a healthy lifestyle, and they would be healthier to me because of it.

    2. What is beauty?
    Just referring to physical beauty...it's aesthetic appeal, and I think the appeal comes from several different areas. 1) One would be health, which is where you see certain "universal" standards of attractiveness carried across culture & time, which are quite limited because they are very basic, and sometimes the appearance of health is deceiving. 2) A second would be cultural standards, which often involve appearances that suggest other desirable qualities beyond health, such as wealth or status or uniqueness (which explains "unconventional" beauty). 3) A third would be appeal to the individual ("beauty is in the eye of the beholder"), which has a lot to do with various biases the person may have. There is a lot of evidence to suggest that people are drawn to people who look like themselves, or who are in stark contrast (novelty). It seems some combo of familiar & novel often results in someone you find beautiful. Sexual attraction is also a factor, but I don't think that boils down to what you find aesthetic appealing; at least for me it does not. Rather, I think sexual attraction can make someone seem more aesthetically appealing than you might have judged them otherwise.

    Of course, outside of the physical, there are many other factors which make someone seem beautiful, and there are forms of beauty which are intangible.

    3. Is a person healthy if the person is thin or thick? in your opinion.
    I think the range of healthy concerning size/weight is broad, and will vary a lot between individuals. What's healthy for one person may not be for another. There are a lot of variables concerning size/weight, more than just too much/little fat. I don't think beauty standards always reflect health in this area, as size/shape can have so many other cultural implications (ie. wealth) that trump sheer health. Beauty standards are often narrower because of this; they seek to set one body type or feature as healthy so as to justify it as the standard. You see this sometimes with other beauty standards also, where people try to link it to fertility or something when there really is no link (ie. breast size).

    4. Men, how should a woman look like?
    I'm not a man, but I think there is no one way women "should" look. There are many body shapes/sizes and facial features which are feminine & can be beautiful. I don't care if that sounds like a cliche, PC answer; I think it's true.

    5. Women, are you happy with your look, or is there something you would like to change? - What?
    I'm mostly happy. If I could wave a magic wand, I might have slightly fuller lips & boobs, but that's probably my cultural brain washing talking. Magic wand aside, clear skin & white/straight teeth are things I'm always struggling to keep/create, as nature threw me some obstacles there. I wore braces for several years & my teeth are still a bit wonky, even if technically straight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomnity View Post
    I've seen photos of you here and you don't look at all out of proportion - maybe compared to a porn star, because that's what plastic surgery is for...but not for normal attractive people.

    Also, the ideal might be to have huge boobs, a tiny waist and somewhat wide hips, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily healthy or practical....I've actually heard more people complaining about large boobs (usually D or E size) than small ones...and I don't think you could say men in general prefer the massively huge ones, porn stars aside....most body shapes have their admirers.
    Where I live, my ideals are really strange. Here it's normal to prefer masculine women with thick knees.
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    What is health for you?
    Health is being healthy, eating well, getting at least some exercise, keeping yourself busy with some at least somewhat fulfilling or useful tasks to stay mentally healthy as well, ect

    What is beauty?
    Beauty is something that is very aesthetically pleasant and makes one feel in awe or at ease. If this is a question of human beauty, I would say it is when someone looks happy, positive, healthy, and is well shaped and proportioned.

    Is a person healthy if the person is thin or thick? in your opinion.
    If they're thickness or thinness is healthy for their size. My girlfriend is in a weight range that would be slightly underweight for someone her height, but doctors still say she is entirely healthy and does not need to gain weight to achieve good health. If she suddenly became in the higher end of "normal" weight or even overweight though, it would be unhealthy without a doubt for her. I'm sure there are many many people who are "tick" who are also entirely healthy because it is how their body works

    Men, how should a woman look like?
    Whatever she is! No need to force women to feel they need to look a certain way.

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